The Rich Redmond Show

Mike coming to you from crash
studios in Music City, USA,

Nashville. This is the rich
Redmond show. What's up,

folks? It's that time. It's time
for on always exciting episode

of the rich Redmond show, we
talk all about all things like

music, motivation, success and
so many other things. It's a

free flowing conversation. Of
course, I'm joined today by my

co host, co producer, fantastic,
all around guy, drummer,

entrepreneur, Jim Carthy,
entrepreneur, entrepreneur,

yeah, yeah. So we've been
knocking these things out, man,

like talking to a lot of
fantastic drummers today is no

different. Are

we having fun or what just feels
good to do these in person

again, doesn't it? I

know I'm keeping my six feet
from you. Oh gosh,

yes. It just, it just breaks my
heart that we had to do that for

700 days. I will never recover.

What did we learn from that?
Absolutely nothing.

Put some echo on that buddy,
nothing, nothing, nothing. So,

hey, we got some time straight
constraints today. Usually we

can meander for about two hours
see where things take us. But I

want to shine a light on this
gentleman today from the

Chicagoland, world class
drummer, award winning drummer,

seven years younger than me, and
think, speaking of seven years,

7.5 years, he's been calling
Nashville home. He's all around.

Fantastic drummer for the last
21 years has been the drummer in

unfreeze McGee. And you know,
that's a catter categorize

Uncategorized band. They blend
genres. It's an amazing thing.

They've got 2700 live shows
under their belt, 14 studio

albums, 21 years My guest has
been there. We're talking about

our friend, Chris myers. Whoa,
pal.

Whoa. What an introduction.

Well, we try to Wow. We try to
go very Hollywood, you know,

like cue the timpani. Are you
doing rich? Thank you that band

of yours. You know this is that
one of the joys of my life is I

get to shine a light on my
friends, old and new, and I get

to do a deeper dive into their
style. So I was on the YouTube

last night. Was watching all
your rig rundowns and these drum

solos, you know, promoting Pearl
drums. It's you are such a

fantastic all around player. I
mean, it's like this one video

you did this open drum solo. It
started with kind of like a a

James Brown groove, but it had,
like more Garibaldi in there,

and then, before you know it,
you were into some weckle, and

then some second line stuff
using every the rims and half

rim shots and full rim shots and
choking symbols in the bell of

the symbol over here, and the
some Ding, ding harmonics. I was

like, This

guy is great. Rum titty, Ding
dings and Dum Dums. So, I

mean, I know where. I mean, your
band gives you that ultimate

platform to to play all these
different styles. But something

tells me you you just always
loved a lot of different kinds

of music.

Yeah, that's probably why I
don't get too many gigs, because

I just play too much. I do all
the styles at once in one

minute.

But your band, I mean, you're,
it's gotta be great to be in a

band like that, where that,
where it's like, you're doing

like a song that sounds like,
yes, you're doing a song that

sounds like Zappa. And then
boom, there's a straight down

the middle Michael Jackson
sounding thing, and then there's

like a three, four, power, six,
eight, kind of a thing. And

everybody in the audience is we,
I saw you guys at the rhyme, and

it was like, your fans are
rabid. Yes,

they are. They're, they're,
we're very grateful for them,

and they are part of our success
and our build together. We,

we're all artists almost
together. Yeah, united, yeah.

And that's, that's amazing, and
thanks for even noticing that. I

mean the merch, I mean the
website is fantastic. You guys

have, like, posters and art
pieces and wearable art. And

you, of course, you gotta have
the coffee mugs and all that

stuff, right? So, how did it
happen for you? How did you get

on these guys's radars? So

basically, I was going to grad
school DePaul in Chicago. Yeah,

back in the old days, 2000 to
2002 and had no recollection or

knowledge of fries. McGee and I
was doing local stuff. And, you

know, jobbing gigs, as they call
them in Chicago, society gigs,

weddings, bar mitzvahs,
corporate parties. Get that tux.

Yep, yeah, I still have it
unfortunately, and it's really

old and gross, yeah, I finally
sell it. They're sold it, yeah,

no. But I basically was, you
know, looking for a change of

pace, because the industry was
also changing at that time, if

you recall, free downloads and
studio work was becoming more

scarce, and that's exactly what
I wanted to do. And I managed to

do some stuff, which was great,
but I couldn't make a living

doing it just like, you know,
based on my generation. So the

option was doing live shows, you
know, just basically touring.

And a friend of mine just told
me his name is Brian Abraham. I

owe it all to him. And Brian,
yeah, and he recommended me to

audition for this band. Called
umphreys McGee. And I was like,

Humphrey Mc What, you know, I
was like, This is what kind of a

kind of rock and roll is this?
Yeah, no. But then I listened to

it, and I was like, wow, this is
amazing, because these guys, um,

you know, change the styles, but
in a tasteful way, and they're

very intelligent with the music
and the the arrangements. So I

was like, Well, I'm gonna try
give this a shot. And so it

turned out that the manager
lived in 15 minutes from my

house. I just back in you had
just press kits, you know, not E

electronic, yes, yeah, no, EP
case, just PKS, and you would

mail it, drive it over to the
mailbox. That's what I did.

Ironically, it was the first
package they received of

literally hundreds of
applicants, which was very

serendipitous. I think, you
know, it was, Oh, you were the

first one to get it there. That
was the first one, yeah, that

they received and to get it
there. Nice. So,

did they listen to anybody else?
Or is it just like, this is the

guy? Well, they

did. But they the way they
described it was, I was like,

when I showed him my demo, which
is a hilarious picture, by the

way, the cover of my demo was,
like, me in like a GQ suit and,

like a really clean cut haircut,
and he's kind of doing a pose,

and Olin Mills, yeah, I think it
was just a, you know, a quick

demo CD for me to just show you,
you know, any opportunity I can

get for whatever and part of the
industry. So I did that. And,

all right, they heard that, and
then they came back. And then

they heard my other band, which
is, at that time, was kick the

cat. Kick the cat, yeah, fusion
band, yes. Thank

you. Yeah, yeah. Those guys are
all my homies, I have seen him

in about a couple months, but
we, you know, we've always

continued to have a friendship,
and we played together and

toured. And, yeah, they heard
that, and they were like, Whoa,

shit. This is like, more than we
expected for our applicants. And

they're like, this is gonna be
great, yeah. And then the rest

they what was

like? It was like, hey, the
third song off of our 17th

record. Yeah,

pretty much it wasn't the 17th
at the time. It was probably the

third,

third, yeah. So who is this
other fellow, Mike Miro.

So Mike Miro was the original
member, original drummer, yeah,

and rest in peace. And, you
know, God, rest his soul. Oh,

man. And he asked, that's why
they need he did no, but he

didn't pass until later. Yeah,
but anyway, he was basically in

the band because they were all
at school together. It's the

story is great. They went to
Notre Dame, and they were

success story from, you know, a
place that normally doesn't

bring or breed Rock Band

South Bend, Indiana band that's
South Bend. Yeah, yeah. So yeah,

he was there and was with them
for at least four or five years.

And basically he needed to make
an opportunity or change in his

life. And he made a career to
change, and wanted to do pursue

medicine doctor. Because I think
his dad really wanted him to go

on that path as well, and he was
open to it. So, you know, these,

these things happen, life
changes. And so he, he was just

leaving as of 2003 and I, I
auditioned, I played, you know

the first New Year's show as a
feature on one of the songs I

learned. And the first song was
called, uh, hurt bird bath. Hurt

bird bath. Yeah, I

like that. You guys don't take
these are too seriously on

the title. Yes, that's right,
that is correct. Yeah.

I mean, so, so the guys in the
band, you got Brendan, Joel, um,

Jake Andy Ryan, and that's you,
Chris. I mean, that's right,

it's got to be a brotherhood all
these years, 21 years, you

finish each other's sentences.
Does everybody live all over the

place? And you guys come to the
first is that how it works?

Yep, pretty much. Yeah, yeah.
We, we had started. We started

breaking off. I'd say around
2000 maybe 10 or so. Everyone

started moving away when they
got married. And Joel's out in

Santa, Monica Ryan's in
Charleston, South Carolina. And

you know, Jake is, he was in
South Bend, and now he's in back

in Niles, Michigan, where he's
from. Well, actually, he's an

UPS, upstate Michigan, which,
you know, Traverse City gotcha,

yeah. And then, you know, Andy's
in Chicago again. And, yeah,

Brennan's there still. He's been
the one that's been holding fort

in the city the longest, the
north side. So, Chicago, yeah,

Chicago.

So exactly,

that's the best spot for the
deep dish. Are you? Were you a

deep did you become a deep dish
guy? Or, like, was is that your

preference? Or would you like a
New Yorker? But, yeah. But when

you have a New York, yes, you
get to fold it in half. It's

very mobile.

That is a valid it's a valid
point and, and, you know, a tip

of the hat to, you know, the New
York style, and Chicago style is

just what I grew up with. And I
have. Have a couple different

types of, you know, not just
deep dish, but also your your

thin crust and your stuffed
crust. Yeah, I love it, yeah.

And the only thing is that they
cut squares instead of triangle,

you know, who

does that is, um, Sicilians,

yeah, they got a Cillian slice.
Is, like a deep dish, Chicago

type of slice, you know, don't
ask me how I'm jets.

Jets does a good deep, deep dish
locally.

Those words that's good to know,

strike those words from your
mouth. No, it's pretty good. No,

no, this is always, or be a
sponsor of this podcast. Come

on. You got to go with Joey's
house of pizza. You know, those

types of places I'm

just saying, for a deep dish
jets is pretty good because it's

like, you know, point 01, miles
from my house. It

always gives me the runs. I
don't know why. Well, I

mean, Geez, you're talking to a
guy that has the runs as a basic

leg, like my modus operandi. You
have

a glass of water, you got to go
take a dump. It's like, Hey

guys,

stool today. It's a very special
day.

We can go there sometimes. So
TMI, I like on the I like on the

the the website, you guys keep a
list of the venues that you have

played at, how many times? I
mean, that's like the that's

like a cool feature of a band
that is a working band. I mean,

you guys are playing all the
cool spots, Bonnaroo,

Lollapalooza, Austin, city
limits, South by Southwest. Red

Rocks, the rhyme, and saw you
guys there the beacon. Got any

favorite spots? Do you because
you guys do wineries, you do

theaters, you do festivals, you
do sheds. Yeah.

I mean, we do a lot of different
things that they, you know, give

us the opportunity to to
attempt, and we're always open

to the challenge. And the rooms
are always changing. Yep, they

especially are these days for
everyone, yeah, you know. But

yeah, Red Rocks is probably my
favorite. I mean, it's

undeniable, right? Yeah, if you
can do that, you know, that's a

one to check off the list, and
that is as far as venues go. I

gotta be honest, the the Fox
Theater in Oakland is a

beautiful room, beautiful. They
renovated it. And it's, you

know, it's always a pleasure to
play there as well. Yeah. But, I

mean, I gotta say the rhyme and
so much history and the room

sound is, is amazing. Yeah, you
feel comfortable. You feel at

home. And the people are always
so warm from the audience and

yeah, so I'd say places like
that,

and that's your hometown venue,
the Ryman Auditorium. Yes,

that's right.

Are you loving Nashville because
you lived also in sunny Los

Angeles?

Yes, I love it here. I love
living here, just living and

cost of living, of course, as
everyone says, who's a

transplant. But you know, I love
it here because of the culture

and the people and the
friendliness, because you

were in North Hollywood right
before earlier, or were you in

Van Nuys, or

Van Nuys, you

got to say, like an Armenian,
though? Yeah.

How does that sound?

I don't even know,

no, but Glendale is the home of
the most Armenians on the planet

other than Armenia, yes, that's
right, Glendale, California,

yeah, big, wide streets, yeah,
tons of parking, yeah,

tons of parking. Very tight
families, yeah, connections in

the neighborhoods. And I lived
just blocks from that, that that

culture. And, you know, I liked
la for what it was. It was

amazing, actually, with all the
world class players that are

there, you can just go see in a
weeknight, yes, go with all the

hiking trails in the Santa
Monica Mountains. Amazing. But,

you know, didn't want to, like,
do the thing, you know, where I

live in my car half the day,
every day, yes, that's horrible.

Got old, right? Yeah. It kind of
sucks the soul out of you. And

even coming from Chicago that
was

challenging, yeah. Well, Chicago
is very much a master transit

city. The cold, though, yes,

the bitter cold, the lake
effect, yeah, you know, you just

get you grow up. Are your folks
still there? Yes, there. So

where I, I grew up in Inverness,
which is a Northwest suburb.

It's directly Northwest, near
Palatine, which, yeah, as

drummers may know this, maybe
the older ones there was in a

famous drums there was a famous
drum store, you know, called the

drum pad, yes, of which we know
some people, such as, uh, Victor

salad.

Was the guy that said, Do you
know Chris myers, and I said, I

want to and he goes, I've heard,
I've heard of him. He goes, this

is a guy you got to get to know.
He can play anything in the

world. And it's true. Well,

God bless him. He's a sweet man.
He's an ambassador to the drum

community. Just like, globally,

yeah? Just like, you like, Dom.
Like, Dom, you know guy rest is

so familar, yeah?

Oh, Dom. Yes, yeah. He was like
the Tony Robbins of he's like

the drum

you want to play the drums.
That's a great comparison. Yeah,

totally

Yeah, his vibe and his stature
and Dom, yes. Victor is very

much a gearhead as well. By
nature. He's like a drum tech

and a drummer he is. And he he
reminds you that it's okay to.

To do, to have four or six
pedals, or, you know, maybe 10

symbols, maybe more. I

remember Vic's rite of passage
for any new friendship is

getting that person on his
gigantic rig, which is like a,

it's like the SS bazio, you
know, yes, kind of a thing,

yeah,

yeah, which I believe wasn't he
did his drum tech for us, and he

uses that stuff creatively. It's
like, you know, Vic loves

playing a gigantic drum set with
the spokes and the, yeah, the

stacks and the, you know, like a
trash can on a remote pedal or

something. I mean, just, just
great stuff. We love Vic. Now,

am I right in saying that your
tour is starting this year, July

4 at the in Westport,
Connecticut,

that's correct, where, yes, the
Levitt performing, performing

arts center. And it's, I'm
actually excited about that,

because it's a really, from what
I heard, it's really pretty up

there, yeah. And it's kind of
like an old, like, an outdoor

experience, if I understand,
right? Like, like, Ravinia, as

we call it in Chicago, the
Ravinia, you know, venue is very

bougie. Esthetic. Is bougie
totally,

I like, I look, I like packs, I
like performing arts centers.

It's like the it's nice and
clean and nice little dressing

rooms. And so what's on your
guys? Writer, do you guys? You

get, you get a little red wine
on there? What's that like?

What's the cheese? Are you
sophisticated? Are you just

like, nah. We're more of like,
Cheetos and Coors Light.

No, we definitely are somewhere
in between both of those. Yeah,

I'd say Budweiser is what my
boys love. Yeah, for beer. And

then I'd say Wheat Thins, which
is kind of boring, yeah, yeah.

And then Cool Whip, yes, no,
Cool Whip. What's cool? What's

a specific thing for you on the
road? Are you getting, like,

protein bars on there, like
almonds that are imported from

Chile or something? Yes,

a big turkey leg? Yes? No.

I like, you know, generally,
just like, charcuterie, nice. I

also, like, yeah, protein
related things. But I don't, you

know, I just eat the meals that
we get to us, and I try not to

eat too much snacking. But snack
wise, yeah, Wheat Thins, and I

try to avoid the sodium chips,
yeah, even though it's

unavoidable that, you know,
everything's got sodium in it.

But I think that, you know, I
try to be as healthy as I can,

yeah? But the problem is, I have
a guilty pleasure, and it's

chocolate, yeah.

Do you do the

Oh, milk? Yeah. But the thing
is, what kind of milk chocolate,

Hershey's or Cadbury, like,
those are the good ones.

Hershey's, the wax, I think it's

called JIRA deli's. Or you
can't, you

can't go wrong there. Those

are with the caramel, yeah?

Why am I speaking up for all the
food segments? I mean, holy

crap.

We are good with the giardelli,
the assortment pack, yes, with

the caramel, oh yeah. And

even some, occasionally, we'll
get some really nice, healthy,

you know, dark chocolate with,
uh, you know, saltier mix in it.

Yeah? You know, what's really
funny with the sodium is, is

that, yeah, you probably should
avoid added sodium to things.

But I never really used to salt
my food. I'm a pepper guy, like,

I go to town on the pepper.
Right? Nice. But as far as

they're saying that salt is
something that is craved by all

animals in the animal kingdom.
Matter of fact, you see these

goats that are on the side of
the mountain, and they're just

like, all the way up, and
they're just like, on the side

of these. And so they can go up
there and lick the salt on this

mountain. That's pretty good. Be
afraid of salt. You need it, but

yeah, probably not the ones in
the lace potato chips. So what

do you do for fitness? Do you
have like, a thing like, Are you

a walker? Are you a runner? Do
you like put heavy things over

your head?

I like to, I like to do cardio
off the road, yeah? On the road,

I try to get out, but I don't,
and lately I haven't, and I've

been bad about it. So

you save all your caloric burn
for the drumming segment of your

day,

yeah? But what I do try to do is
just, I definitely do

stretching. But I do that, of
course, when the body's warmed

up. Yeah, I do. I do warm ups
during the day for drum

drumming, yeah, and, but I do it
with a sense of looseness and

always keeping limbs just
moving. But yeah, I should. I

used to do more exercise. I'll
hit the the fitness center,

maybe once every two tours.
Yeah. And then yoga. I'm just

now getting back into, how cool,
about a decade. It's

nice because you get your little
mat, you know, yes, you go into

the venue in the morning with
your little mat, and you say hi

to the security people, and
they're, you know, yeah, it's

fun. And yeah. And then you just
annoy everybody and walk in

like, you know, and your yoga
pants, and you just say, Hey,

you do you have my my soy milk
in the fridge? I really did ask

for that. It's nice to meet you
anyway. This is what my day was

like. You know,

you have my bucket of fried
chicken too, please. Yeah.

Now, what's this documentary?
You guys got? It just came out

June 11. Frame by. Frame. Oh

yeah, that was a, it was a,
basically just kind of like a

deluxe offering we gave at that
time. But it's a great it's got

an unbelievable footage of past
and present that the editing was

amazing on it. It's not
necessarily like a typical rock

doc documentary about a band,
but it's more about sharing all

the fun moments we had with the
footage. And these are sort of

special things that our fans
like. It's not just the most,

you know, commercial, middle of
the road, you know approach. We

do things and release things
that are a little more deeper

than that, more archival,
because our fans are, they're

like, part of that jam band
culture where it was originally,

right, like, deadheads, which
is, like the, you know, right?

The blue first generation, first
wave, yeah, of hardcore tapers

and fans who just follow the
band for hundreds of shows.

You'll use a lot of familiar
faces at multiple shows. Yes,

wow. It's

great. It's a blessing. The

gathering of the vibes is that
ring a bell in Bridgeport,

Connecticut, yeah, we played it.
That was a that was something

that we had to do when my first
radio station, we did a whole

weekend of broadcasting there,
man, you had to bring a bar

soap. Yeah, right. Oh my
goodness, yeah.

It gets, gets pretty, you know,
heady up there, as they say.

But, um, no, that's cool,
because gathering the vibes

brings past and present artists
and some definitely members of

the dead with their projects. So
I had a funny story there, funny

you mentioned, and I'm glad you
I have a Mickey heart story.

Yeah, Mickey heart, My God, so

I'm just backstage, you know,
twiddling with my my symbol, you

know, positions, and taking my
symbols off after the kit, after

the show. I did notice that on
my right stage right, Jim, I'm

sorry, Mickey Hart was sitting
there with his mallet sticks on

the side of a case, sitting on
it, just playing along with the

band, you know, just amazing,
just, and I was like, Whoa,

that's, you don't see that every
day. So then I'm backstage, and

Mickey came up, which is, I
think, on, you know, unlike him,

usually, he's very, you know,
he's very cool, and is a

stature, you know, very
introvert, little kind of

introverted. No, no, not at all.
He's definitely a, like, kind of

a community leader with
drumming, yeah, like his planet

drum records. You

remember that planet drums?
Yeah,

it's very, you know,
influential. So anyway, yeah, he

comes up and he's, I'm trying to
be cool, and he's like, yeah,

he's kind of stepping he looks
like a, like a baseball coach

from the 70s. He's got the kind
of pants, and he's his arms

folded, he's walking towards
you. They're like, he's ready

to, like, cut you out, base

kid, let's go, yes. But instead,
he's like, strike, yeah,

Lucky's,

yeah. Pretty much just came
right up and he's like, notice

some pretty fancy double bass
footwork. Most impressive, most

impressive, most impressive. And

I was like, two time Mickey. Two
time Mickey.

So I said, thank you. And I
didn't really say much else,

because I didn't want to be
like, you know, that fan, super

fan guy. But I was also kind of,
like, also trying to be like,

well, not from the jam scene,
and I'm a jazzy Yeah, but

I mean, you're like, you're
you're like, you were like, I

tell everybody, I'm an over
educated rock drummer. You are

an over educated everything
drummer. I mean, his style is,

if like, you took like, you
know, Vinnie Paul's feet and

weckles phrasing and
cleanliness, and then the date

David garibaldi's control over
the stick heist and dynamics

with some Cobham singles in
there. Then there's some, then

there's some, like, you know,
Gene Krupa showmanship. It's

coming from one person.

Wow, that's amazing. That's,
that's very kind of human.

You get to do it like, like, I
mean, I've listened to a lot of

those guys, and maybe some of
that stuff is in there

somewhere, absolutely, but I
don't get to do that.

Is, your humility is quite
staggering. You're like, thank

you very much. You're aware of
this stuff. Come on. Well,

people talk. I

mean, you know, he won the drum
award, dude. What was it? Well,

hey, you were you and I were
both on the cover of MD, that's

right, our parents are like, so
happy. My mom framed it. It's

like, right on the way to the
bathroom at her house and in the

toilet hallway

that she's like, Who's this
blonde head, blue eyed schmuck

here on the front cover? It's
and you're like, that's

my friend, Chris, I know. And
11, you were the best Jam Band

drummer by drum magazine. So
like you are, you are award

winning, and your and your
peers, you know, recognize you

for your for your talents, and
then, you know, your companies,

uh, Pearl Evans Zildjian, I saw
some of those Dan Dawes pads up

there. What's the appeal with
the Dawes pads versus, like,

some of the more, you know, big
box stuff,

I find that, like, just like a
lot of drummers could relate to

this, when, if you, you know,
assimilate a lot of samples and

sequences and manual playing
live, of electronics, yeah, we

just have a difficult time
finding something that's road

friendly. Yeah, you always have
to keep replacing it. And I

won't name any brands, but you
know what I'm talking about,

sure. So you also want to find a
pad that's gonna, you know, give

you the performance that you
need from a better sound module,

gives you better fidelity on
those samples. Yeah, so I just

decided to upgrade to the Dawes
pads, which, I don't know if you

know the story, but the Dawes
pads, to my understanding, used

to be the Super Ball company.
You remember the Super Ball when

we were kids, throw it on the
ground and it bounces way up

there? Well, they eventually
gave shares out, or the business

went away, and then they, you
know, investors put it in the

drum pad, or this drum, yeah,
electronic pad kit called Dawes

Pads,

Pads. But Dan Dawes is, and
he's, he's very much, like,

underground, yeah, it's not
like,

doesn't really big box store
stuff. That's correct, yeah,

yeah. So you, but you have to do
your research, and you find that

it's the most durable pad, one
of the or the anywhere, and it

that Super Ball material helps
get that bounce you want, and

it's thick enough. I mean, if
Neil Pierre used it, and also, I

mean, it's nice, yeah, they use
them, then that's it, you know,

bets are

off. So what's up, Dan? Yeah,
Dan came to one of my clinics at

MI and he gave me, I know he
goes, I like, you know, I like

these colors. I

know you like these colors.
Yeah, that was the thing, too.

That

was sweet to him, man. He's a
cool guy, man. Now, a band this,

there's, we're just all over the
place, but I was just a little

bit curious, a band of that size
six people. I've been in a band

with six people. It's always
just seems like there's one or

too many people, you know, in
that amount of it. But you guys,

it's, it's, it works incredible.
What is the writing process

like, and how do you guys
record? Are you recording in the

same studio all the time? Do you
have a producer?

Yes. So we have, over the years,
stuck with the same idiom, which

is getting together first, to
write together like the old

school band style. Wow. Right.
Nice, which is tedious to some,

but courageous for others, or
whatever you want to call it,

authentic. Yes, we, we do that
usually up to Jake's studio. We

used to, for many years, go up
to his personal studio with all

of his analog gears tape
machines and or he had a dat

machine, actually, from the 90s,
and a great board, and it'd be

up in a shed up in Niles,
Michigan, which is basically a

real remote town in Michigan,
kind of blue collar dirt roads.

So we would be off of the, you
know, the reservation for a

whole weekend, right? And then
once we write all the music

together, we'll keep the demos
if we like it, or we'll just

redo them in a in a big city
studio. And we used to record,

and have continued to record
with Greg majors, who I live

right by Bellevue, who's also a
notable ninja here, that a lot

of people should continue to to
reach out to or get to know,

Greg majors, okay,

unbelievable. Yeah, he

works in

his own home studio, like me in
Bellevue, but he has been doing

Humphreys records forever, and
we had a producer for the

longest time from Chicago named
Manny Sanchez, who moved to LA

now, but he was a huge influence
on us to get us to be more legit

with a producer helping us
define that moment in the style.

But we've always been our self,
you know, produced kind of band

as well,

and that you guys, with six
people, can come together

democratically, yeah, and make,
you know, decisions without

getting butt hurt and breaking
up the band.

That's true.

You know, we're all still an
imperfect and very dysfunctional

family, just like anyone else.
Oh, yeah. But when it comes to

recording, we have guys like
Jake, who's a, first of all,

like a, he's like, an
encyclopedia of rock and country

in any style of music, really.
Yeah, he's just a brilliant

genius of a guy with recording
concepts, and then all the guys

in their own right, you know,
bring some kind of magic and

just, you know, something that
makes sense, structure and

arrangement. We also keep it
like you said. We keep it

progressive, and we don't try
to, you know, adhere or conform

to anything. We're very lucky
for that.

I mean, you guys are there is a
genre. Because if you guys, if

Tower Records still existed,
they would be looking to put you

in a specific section, right,
just to help things along. But

now it's almost even better in
this world where it's just like

there's you're a genre. Less you
guys are all over the place.

Now, is there a type of fan you
were talking about? Your fans?

Is there a mold, or is it all
over the place?

It's not really all over the
place in the universal world of

the music industry, but it's
pretty, I'd say it's various

with people who come from
progressive music to, you know.

Or, you know, traditional jam
music, maybe subcultures from a

little bit of the metal scene.
Yeah, they actually really, you

know, there's a few metal bands
and people we know that we've

looked up to that actually have
heard of us only for some reason

they probably appreciate the
guitar work. You know, Jake and

Brennan are a dueling, uh,
guitar powerhouse that just, you

know, it's like the Allman
Brothers, how they were with a

lot of harmonizing, Unison
lines, the same way with Brennan

and Jake. And they do it live,
you know? So, yeah, I mean, we,

we do what we can.

I mean, with 14 studio albums,
it's got to be pretty difficult

putting a set list together.
Now, when you go on a tour, are

you guys changing it nightly?

Uh, yeah, we have a different
set every night. That's

incredible.

So you literally, you are, well,
the average, you know, um,

freeze record has 15 tracks on
it. I've seen 18, and you got 14

records. I'm trying to do the
math. So is everybody

responsible for the entire body
of work at all times,

I'd say. So we split the song
splits, though, you know, when

it comes to the business side a
little differently than equal,

but it's sensible, yes, and we,
you know, it makes sense, yeah,

but I think that when it comes
to improvising. We open up. It's

important that we all accept
each other as they as who they

are and how they want to, you
know, express themselves. We do

come together, though, as a
team. Moments to realize, okay,

now we could put that aside the
and then just play something

together like this or this style
or this vibe, yeah, or that, and

then for a few minutes, and
then, you know, one guy will,

will gage how much time that is,
and be very calculated with the

control chaos.

Yeah, I think, I think that the
idea of changing the set list

every night, Jim, but isn't this
interesting is that, is that,

you know, when we go on tour,
we'll, we'll do our 30 shows at

the back end of the year, and
it's the same 24 songs every

night. So it's all literally
about just execution right now

you got, and you got to put your
thinking caps on when you got a

different show every night that
keeps the brains of neurons

firing. Yeah,

pretty much, sometimes, for
better or worse. I mean, you

know players who play in
progressive more, you know, I

wouldn't say obscure, but
eclectic kind of, you know,

yeah, environments tend to, I
think, you know, get really

excited on one night when you're
really hitting it on all

cylinders, you just feel it
blowing. And then some nights

it's like, yeah, you're not sure
if this or even that, all these

components are connecting, and
that can be a little nerve

wracking, but, you know, as long
as we just keep plowing through

and then you listen back to the
recording study, like game

tapes, I used to do it, and I
had to, because, like you said,

it's chaos that we're doing.
It's chaos, you know, it's

crazy.

I can't believe it, man, there
we go. Nice. Off we go to the

races. I was gonna warn you, I
might get

into Christopher walk guys can
have a walking off, a

walking battle. Yes,

at some point, and we will, we
will start

talking like we have no
punctuation, no commas,

semicolons. Well,

you know, Shatner was very big
on changing the emphasis of the

various syllables, that's right.
And he would be practiced in a

million different ways. He

had walking were very similar,
yeah, yeah, yes, yeah. Ship,

we go. We are going here,

yes, yeah. It's kind of a
backwards annunciation. So,

yeah, yeah. So basically, going
back to what you're saying, I

think we, you know, use the
algorithmic, you know, all

things unfreeze.com stats of
these songs played. Because when

we write set lists, we have to
keep tabs on how many times

we've played that song in this
given city or market. Wow,

that's, that's why we do that,
as well as for the geeky, nerdy

fans that love that stuff. So

there's got to be an AI app for
that by now. Yeah, I think,

I mean, I'm sure, let's

grinder.com

I don't know somebody, but I
mean, it's, it's, it's almost

like, Dave Matthews, like, we,
we had a gift certificate, me

and the gal, Cara, we were gonna
go, like, go see. We got, yeah,

we got, like, like, a gift card
to go see a band. And we're

like, oh, let's go see Dave
Matthews been forever, and

they're known for changing the
shit list every day, yes. And so

she wanted to hear crash. She's
like, he better F and play

crash. And so you watch the
whole show for three hours, or

whatever it was. Yeah, I just
know I peed twice. Um, he never

played crash. He didn't play any
of his hits. From what it sounds

like, it was, it was he? I don't
know. Maybe he was like, Okay,

we're in Music City, a lot of
musicians here, so let's like,

let's shred. You

know, I think it's not even, I
don't think, Dave, you dance,

he, I. He moves to the beat of
his own drum. From what I've

gathered as a person, when I
he's he's an amazing person,

kind of eccentric, yeah? And
just like anyone in that band,

The Spirit they possesses is the
confidence and the joy of

changing it up when you want to
change it up, yeah? And they've,

they have also been in a
comfortable situation with that,

yeah, and it's amazing, they've
had commercial success as well.

So they are, like, kind of a an
enigmatic thing, yeah,

you know, now, did any of your
songs break through traditional

radio? I'd say,

like college radio, maybe,
right? Yeah.

And we also had, I think,
moments with cover songs. That's

a good question. I don't think
we have commercial success. I

mean, we've kind of, we've done
collaborations one time with

Huey Lewis. Yes, we call uncle
Huey.

Oh, my God, you got to tell us
about that, because Jim huge

fan. Yeah, all right. I mean, I
am too, but yeah, Jim's on a

kick. Well,

let me tell you fun music to
play. Have you ever met him by

chance?

We interviewed him on the show.
I saw that, yeah, and

he was able to hear everything,
okay? Because he's having

hearing issues. Yeah? Well,

he was, he was listening to
ambient sound off of his

computer, I would imagine some
sort of, you know, monitoring

system so he didn't have any
ears or headphones on, which I

would imagine would trigger his
condition,

yeah, and which I obviously, you
know, I don't need to horrible

to elaborate. It's not my
business. But we are friends

with him after all these years
of which we met at the, what I

told you was the jammies, which
was the jam band version of the

Grammys amazing. Yeah, back in
2007 or something like that. We

met him in the most eclectic
group of artists that

collaborated that that evening
with us, and he was one of them.

And ever since we've been we've
been friends. He gave he

collaborated with us on a song
called Women, wine and song,

yeah, and that's a that was kind
of a tip of the hat to Lowell

George, you know, from little
feet, yeah, back in the day,

that kind of feel and vibe and
and he played harmonica and sang

on it in the courses. And then
he got us on Jimmy Kimmel as

well. People you know, helped,
he helped with it. Yeah?

He said, he seems like such a
generous, you know, wants to

give back and pay it forward.
Yeah, did you watch how he was

on the We Are the World
Documentary? Do you watch that?

Yes, and how, just like in awe,
he was, I mean, you think about

it, at that particular point in
time, he'd only been like a rock

star for maybe two years. He was

very humble and grateful for
being there, but he killed it

too, totally brought it Well,

the reason is, is, I think it's
because of his personality. He

is literally the coolest guy I
have ever met in the music

industry, beautiful. And his
stories are the best too. He

tells you the good stories, the
the more known stories. But he's

just so cool. And everything I
love

this vulnerability. I was
surprised at it that he was

talking about his menirs so
transparently. He's like, it is

what it is. Man, yeah, you know,
it's not very often that you

come across somebody of such a
big stature like that that's

willing to admit a weakness. You
know, I appreciate that about

Jon. Bon Jovi, yeah, you know,
he

did that whole Docu series

document is very, it's very,
very brave, very, very brave.

And it's like, he didn't

have to do that. But I think it
was like, You know what? I just

feel like, I have a feeling that
he, there's a lot more to that

story that he was, let me put
this out there, and, you know,

get the fans warmed up to the
notion that I may not be able to

do this anymore. I really want
to do it, yeah, you know,

well, you know, he's always been
just that way, even casually. So

he just kind of, he's kind of a
pioneer, like, like a Bob Dylan

guy, but not so introverted,
more the extroverted version,

the extroverted Bob Dylan. And
he, he grew he grew up with a

lot of, you know, the the
Northern California greats of

the, you know, more hippie, you
know, kind of yeah culture. And

he grew up with that as well,
but he became a pop star as

well. So he's, he's got a, you
know, multi faceted universe,

totally connections. It's

just so interesting to see
drummers various backgrounds,

because we had Bill Gibson on
the show where and I was like,

yes, now you are a, you're, of
course, of an over trained

drummer. And he goes, I gotta
let you know sometimes I have

never had a lesson in my life in

the 70s is taking lessons. Now,
you know that

he's saying, you know, I
believe, I remember him saying

that too. He's a, I don't, I'm
not trying to name drop at all,

but he, he's a friend and

Bill, maybe you dropped
something. It's right there. Oh,

I'm joking.

Yeah, I, uh, so gullible. I just
went with

that to be to have your your
your sound that solid, and your

musical choices that solid, and
create those everlasting drum

parts and execute them on all
those television shows. Yeah, no

drum lessons. That's like,
great.

You know that probably went to
his advantage. Because, yeah,

you know, some sometimes things
stick better when you don't

overthink it, you know, like
playing just that solid pocket,

which he did, like a Jeff per
Caro kind of player, yes, yeah,

was all was needed. Well,

even, even towards the latest
albums you look at, you know,

small world and perfect world,
those are really intricate,

involved songs.

That's true. The horn. Saw the
horn. You know what? I mean? Oh,

that's all kind of Motown, yeah,
stacks records, kind of stuff,

which we grew up playing, yeah,
um, yeah. Who are your guys? Who

are you? Who are your route
Mount Rushmore, like, why did

you get into drumming? Because
here's the deal. The year was

1976 I started playing drums
that was one year before that

was like when your dad had a
sparkle in his eyes, yeah, and

then you were born the next
year.

Better late than never. Drummers
usually playing time perfectly,

but not on time.

How about that. Give me a
splash. Jim, okay,

okay, there you go. Zing, well,
you know, I think of dramas

with, you know, true vigor, an
absolute, just reckless abandon,

explore, you know, thinking of
the professionalism and the

presence and the charisma of
rich Redmond, you have to do the

Mount Rushmore without a doubt.
Every time I'm in the seat in

the room, he's playing the
backbeat, and it goes, pow, pow,

oh. And like a dog, you know,
bow, wow, or maybe a cat, you

know, meow,

you know, kick the cat shack,

yeah, hard. Get a lot of like,

you got a lot of like, dog
lovers at the kick cat kick the

cat show, like,

oh, actually, we get more like
the opposite. Not lovers, I'm

sorry, not the opposite. What
I'm saying is we get activists

sometimes, because that was a
very Oh, my God, really. Well,

this is this the name of that
band. Was not the greatest idea,

but it was. It was named a band.
We were named the band kick the

cat in night back in 96 Yeah,
before that was ever an issue,

yeah. So when we rebranded the
band and tried to tour, like a

few years ago, which we did, and
it was a lot of fun, we had a

little little trouble with the,
you know, modern day culture,

everyone's

got a trouble with something
lighting up. People, we're not

actually kicking the cat, right?

I know, and we had to start.
Well, what we'd say is, kick is

the name of the cat. See

kick the cat? Yes. Comma the
cat.

Oh, my God, so

with getting this down, yeah.
Did you see the Super Bowl

commercial where they were? He
was just like, completely, like,

he's driving up to drive
throughs, and everyone's doing a

Christopher Walken impression,
oh no. And he's just like, Yeah,

okay, yeah, I get it, yeah, he's
probably so over it by now. But

does anybody do Al Pacino? Oh,
band. All I care about are the

drums pocket. This guy is over
here going, Whoa, wow,

man, yeah. So is this like a
pastime? You like this? Like

to do impressions? Yeah, I

was never a good actor, so I
just thought, well, I

can do impressions. That's
great. There's a lot of

comedians and actors that are
like, I don't do impressions.

Yeah, right.

Frank Caliendo does the best. Al
Pacino Agreed, agreed, yeah,

yeah.

And you comedy fan? You got the
main deal? Do you fall like,

Sure, Marin or Gaffigan or Matt
Fife? What's his name? Rife.

Matt rife.

Yeah, actually, Marin's Great,
yeah, I like his show too. He

has a podcast, yeah, he just,
yeah, he

the mark man show. I know, yes,
you guys,

yeah. So he's great. And, you
know, I just, I just try to

discover comedians when I can.
And I'm pretty open minded

towards the satire Bill bird
does occasionally is like,

really brash, as we all know.
But you know what? I there's

moments where he takes me out, I
think it's just like, Oh, I

just feel that he is great. He
is great, but he is he's a

little shouty, yeah, he shoots
from the anger in New Yorker.

Yeah, constantly getting up
here. Nobody's, I think he's

Bostonian. Is he Bostonian? Wow,
no kidding, I

think so. Well, I

apologize, Boston. Yeah,
interesting. Well, anyway, yeah,

I forgot what we were well, we

were talking about, we're
talking about Rushmore of

drummers, you know? Well,

of course, there's just no
denying, um, I don't have

favorites. As you know, we were
doing clinics. Hard to say there

is the the greatest this or the
greatest that. The more you

realize when you start diving in
to the history of drummers and

all of the people that you just
realize there is no favorite.

Yeah, you know, yeah, you could
still have a favorite. But

was there a guy that was like,
that was like, the tipping point

for you to pick up the sticks?
Okay,

well, let's start with that. The
chronological order. Here we go.

No one has ever done this. I
don't have four. I might have

more, but I'll try to make it in
order.

That's great. No, it doesn't
have to be four. It could be 40.

And go

and between. If I had to choose
between Bonham and Stuart, I'm

gonna go with Stewart. Bonham,
yes, he's absolutely 100% but

Stuart was just had so unique
flash and a certain feel that I

ever since I was just coming out
of the womb, I just felt it.

He was very reggae. Yeah,

his pop, pop punk, just lively,
Sunny sounds feels like, you

know you're listening to like a
cheetah playing the drums.

Listen to his, even his like
cadence of regular speech, he

sounds like Christopher Walken.
You're like, yeah, you're like,

it's cheetah. It sounds it's
like, you know, you're not even

trying. You're not even trying.
This is coming up naturally. You

know, the next thing you got to
master is the Morgan Freeman,

yeah,

that's a hard one. You

got to talk to an old person,
yeah, you know, like you're

talking about every time my wife
gets up, Courtney went to the

refrigerator, yeah, and in there
she found last night's dinner,

and it wasn't anywhere near as
good as it was the booties,

yeah, it's like, I love
stratosphere. So

yes, it was evaporating Stuart
Copeland and me and you are

tight, awesome.

There was like two, there was
three different cabs, probably

Alex Van Halen Pierre, yep. And
Copeland back in the day, yeah.

And I

loved all of them, but in all
different ways. But I have to

say, if I edged out anyone from
them, it's Stuart. And then

after that, a big influence was,
hmm, well, I always gotta, I

always gotta tip the hat to
buddy yeah. Buddy Rich Yeah,

which is arguably tech in terms
of technical feel, or, you know,

approach, probably one of the
strongest, greatest of all time.

Yes, in terms of, let's see
after that. Okay, the third, I'd

say the third or fourth is Vinny
kalau to Sure, 100% he's the

only drummer nowadays that.
Well, no, there's so many that

are all around. But with him, I
find that He's everything he

touches turns to gold, you know.
And kind of player risk

taking turns to gold, and, yeah,
everything he touches

another drum podcast, I am
talking

to this guy about turning things
to gold takes it to another

place. It just amps up the
silliness. Yes,

let's try to think of a fourth.
Jim McCarthy, I'll be honest

with you, straight groove guy.
Or Keith Carlock, who's a good

friend, as we all know here now,
which we're lucky to have him.

He's, United States, probably my
fourth Did you steal his?

Those, those things,

I wouldn't say I've steal a
stolen and I just try to attempt

them and see what becomes the
chris myers version of that I

like to throw out of I thought I
like to throw them around a

little bit, just on your trash
can. Endings, right? You know?

Tip of a hat to Keith and Tony
and, you know,

yeah, he's, maybe I forgot Steve
gad I mean, geez, Steve Gadd, of

course. So if there was a fifth
president on there, weckles,

great. Did

you go through that a phase? A
weckle phase? I mean, like

that. I'm, yeah, I'd say, so the
hair, no,

I had that vo five mullet, yeah,

he's actually, yeah, he's, he's
a really cool guy too. He's

really nice. Like, he's kind of
more on the quiet side when I

met him, but I don't know, and
maybe he's not, but he's really

cool. Yeah, Benny, I got to meet
once in Chicago on a gig, and he

was just, I didn't want to
bother him too much. I get too

nervous and star studded with
you know, when you meet your

heroes and you don't want to,
yeah,

you get Star Trek a little bit,
even by celebrities too, because

they, because these people can
probably take a couple of

lessons from you. I mean, any
drummer in the world would be

able to you would be able to
teach them some shit. You just

got so much facility, man, it's
just and so much musicianship.

Hey, this record, zonkey 2016
where you guys were, like, doing

mashups, you got this one song.
It's very it's like your most

spun song on Spotify. You can't
rock my dreams face. It's a mash

up of rock with you dreams and
you, I can't feel my face.

That's correct. Amazing. Yeah,

it's outrageous. Yeah? We, we
found that a concept record like

that was something that I don't
think any too many bands have

done, I mean, very high level.
And we, we put them some time

into that. We, it originally
started as just a an event we do

for Halloween shows, yeah, where
the we would just create our own

arrangements of mashing up.
Like, and it's originally a DJ

culture thing, yeah, where they
would just do the, you know, the

instrumentals from in a book
from another Yeah. And we're

like, Why can't a band do that?
So we're gonna try that. So,

thanks. Yeah, we luckily I got
to do, you know, the I can't

feel my face part, and then
that's not easy to do, because

that singer is just fabulous.
And I don't, right, yes, I do

backgrounds usually, but I do
covers. I can't

believe you you can do the
backgrounds and play that insane

music. Well, I

started playing, I think it's
just like anything else. I

started when I was 12, singing
and playing because we needed

to, okay, battle the band. You
could just

throw some credit towards Phil
Collins and that, oh yeah, Don

Henley, those kinds of things.

You know what absolutely

is not. That's not easy. No, now
it's not. And also,

he wrote a couple catchy tunes,
I'd say, as well. Yeah, yeah,

no, I think that they were, they
were amazing drummers, with the

energy they they brought to the
song, and also with the vocals

tied in there. And drummer
singers are kind of a rare

breed. So, yeah. I mean, as far
as the zonkey record, it was a

lot of fun. I My favorite was
doing James Hetfield on the sad

gorillas. Yes, yeah, because I
got to do that part, of course,

you know, because it was like
the song, you know, from the

gorillas, which is, I ain't
happy you didn't glad I got, you

know, and that's our bassist
Singing that. And I'm going,

Hey, I'm your life.

Nice. Yes,

I do that. Which that
instrumental? And then we go

back and forth between the
songs, yeah, and then we lose

our goddamn

minds. It's incredible. And then
all the, I mean, all the drum

sounds, track, the track you got
flubby snares, you got, you

know, ringing piccolos, you got,
like, you know, it's just all

just a it's just some great
stuff, man. Thank you. Just

really, really great. And then,
hey, recently, I know we're

running out of time, but you are
just your rehab now from your

rotator cuff. Uh,

I'm past that now. Yeah, you're
all rehabbed. Yes. Thanks for

back. I recommend you know
anyone who questions getting the

surgical procedure of something
that is attainable, like a just

a rotator cuff repair. Yeah, I
would just say, get with a good

or orthopedic and do it yes.
Like you can't defy science with

stem cells, with books that tell
you that you can ignore the

pain. Sorry. Yeah, I disagree
with that. It's your choice. And

I know other drummers who've
who've gone other routes, and it

is a cost effective thing too.
But if you have good insurance

and you can afford, you know, a
great orthopedic you must do it

because you are an athlete and
you need to treat your body like

it was like a good six months of
rehab. It was for me. Luckily, I

stayed ahead of the of the
schedule, and I was four and a

half months ready to go. Nice,
but luckily, the band was

generous, and I'm very grateful
for it to let me come in at, you

know, New Year's, which was more
exciting for the fans, yeah,

while they're there, and here I
am, like, 20 pounds later. Hey

everybody, I can't fit in my
shirt, but here I am. And then,

you know, then you then they put
me to work really hard this year

because we had to make up for a
lot of lost, you know, momentum,

yeah. And we're doing it, and
I'm, you know, I'm working on

keeping it, you know, rehab by
just continuing to to ice down

after shows, which a lot of
drummers, I noticed some

surprise, don't really do that,

yeah. I mean, well, I'm supposed
to be, I supposed to be probably

icing things a little bit, but
you're just on this high after

the show. You're like, ah, and
you want to get into your, you

know, your your clean clothes
afterwards. Like, I want to ice

right now, yeah, you know,
pretty much,

yeah, no. But that's, that's
really, I appreciate that, you

know. And I am doing, you know,
some gigs locally coming up. So

August 9, I'm doing a, we're
gonna do a show in town that I'm

gonna announce on Friday, nice
with some some friends, and

that'll be amazing. And then I
do charity work too. Third and

Lindsey, no, won't be there,
yeah. But yeah, it's just if you

want to check out my Instagram,
or, you know, my, I don't my

website needs to be updated, so
I'm not gonna even suggest that.

Yeah.

So you guys got unfreeze
mcgee.com or is it um freeze?

Well, umfreeze.com

freeze.com Yeah. And then Chris
myers drums.com is the in

construction dated website of
mine. Do you

feel like living in Nashville
where everything is just so so

song oriented. Stay out of the
way. Giant backbeats, yes,

because people get this
perception of you playing so

dense. Yes. Do

you get calls to do the boom
Schmack

only a couple times. Luckily,
you know again, when you're

doing a philanthropic or
charitable thing, I got to do a.

Really cool session with some
some heavy players, like some of

Garth, Garth Brooks rhythm
section, nice. And Danny Rader

guitarist, right? Yeah. And I
was very lucky on that one. And,

yeah, I did that. It's think
sound check studios before it

shut down, yeah. Amazing room.
And then I did a couple events

at basement East. And then, you
know, I can't, can't recall too

many more. I did actually run a
charity event I did called the

sleigh ride, which was at the
Brooklyn Bowl, yes. And that

went very well with Maggie
Rogers, Taylor Hicks and, you

know, Corey Wong and Bill Evans
and Jeff Coffin. And you raise

money for I raised it was for a
place called David's den, which

is a facility here. I think
everyone should, should go look

into it's, it's giving you an
option in the community to go to

a safe house for mental health
counselors. Counseling that's

not like in network that you
have to worry about, like chair

your insurance related claims.
It's like something you can go

to be part of team building
projects. Great counselors

there, and that's on the east
side, I believe. So, yeah,

David's den. Yeah, nice. We
raised money for them. I'm not

currently doing anything else.
I'm just trying to get ready for

a wedding in three months.

Yes, that's right, you got your
you got a big life change coming

up. Yes, good for you. Thanks.
Very time consuming, because you

got to, like, pick out your
napkin colors and how many

layers the Groom's Cake is going
to be. Where are you going to

sit the parents. Well, luckily,
I'm

only doing Am I making the right
decision?

No, definitely.

Is your first marriage? This is
my first, first and last.

Hopefully, yes, yeah,
absolutely,

yeah. I mean, it's, she's, she's
in the industry as well. So we

it works, which is great. I

forget she an agent or
something. She works as an event

coordinator, yeah, with

Romeo Entertainment Group, yeah,
yeah. And that's cool. She's

just really, she's a I learned a
lot from her. I'm very inspired

by that. I want to learn from
administrative side of the

industry more these days,
because all players should do it

for good, for the right reasons,
of course, yeah,

educate yourself on the other
sides of the business. You know,

we just had our new friend Jason
Hartless on Jason the guy's

always got a, you know, he's
always got, like, a vinyl

business, you know, selling
vinyl records. And his dad was

in the industry, so he's smart
to kind of keep his Okay, it's

time. We got to get you out of
here. But really quick, the Fave

Five, favorite color,

I'd say blue.

There's a lot of blues. Man like
not baby blue, dark blue, royal

blue,

I'd say probably a royal blue or
light blue. Yeah, nice, like an

ocean blue.

Favorite drink,

well, other than sprite here,
which is sugary, yes,

I don't know. I probably say
I've liked the buy drinks. Bai

Bye.

Oh, yeah, yeah, bye, bye, bye,
yeah. Justin Timberlake,

what is it? Is it like infused
with some sort of a happiness,

or something, or what, like a,

you know, this does drink. It's
kind of inner

in it, basically, which I'm
starting to research, is there

are pros and cons with that,
but, yeah, it's, it's still

better than tons of sugar, like
this sprite I'm drinking right

now. Justin didn't

explain it very well. Sometimes

a sprite is just, you know, when
you got an upset stomach, it's

like, boom, there you go. What's
your favorite kind of food or

dish?

I love anything with shrimp in
it.

Shrimp at Dufay, fried shrimp,
deep fried fish, burger, all the

stuff. Who's that? I totally

set myself up that bad and
probably like Italian food, most

of any kind of pasta, which is
gotta be, you know, we gotta, we

gotta be careful with that.
Yeah, Myers,

what do you judge German
Icelandic? Why is

nor Norwegian? My dad is
actually from Norway, and he

migrated to Brooklyn in the 50s.
You look like you

could swing a hammer. Thanks,
man. Yeah, hammer, yeah, yeah.

All my behind you somewhere
here,

all my Scandinavian homies,
yeah, yeah. So that's really it.

Dolph Lundgren is my hero. Yes,
yes. What about a favorite song?

Does

you have a song that just keeps
rearing its ugly head throughout

stages of your life? Or

I'd say,

any police song really? Yeah,
but driven cult of personality

is a badass one, because living
color was a huge influence.

What's the thing that will does,
like, do, got into God, do gun

and do bang. So, boom, boom,
boom, right? It's just kind of

like a poly rhythm, right? Or is
it just a feel thing? No, I

mean, it's, it's in the pocket
in the gun. Just got the

way to be triplets. But it's,
you know, it's in that it's a

triplet.

Isn't it crazy that we both just
sung it perfectly. Do God? Do

God and do God gave man he was I
really loved his playing and the

fidelity and those records. And
uncle said, favorite movie,

favorite movie,

three amigos. Yeah, that really
holds up. Yeah, man, you know, I

love all these complex, amazing,
brilliant things going on with

directors and their concepts and
stuff. But when it comes to just

a whole, a soulful feeling, fun,
lighthearted thing, there's

nothing better nowadays than
ever. And I just rediscovered

the three amigos.

We had a lot of interstellar
recently. Everyone's like,

Christopher Nolan, Christopher
Nolan, Christopher Nolan. I'm

like, Well, what about something
stupid and just fun? Like the

movie about Mary,

for me is airplane. It always
holds up.

Yeah, yeah, airplane. And then I
also nerd out to, you know, I

need the Lord of the Rings.
Like, once

a year you got to sit down. You
watch all of them back to back.

That's really crazy that you got
those four films, right? Big

that took up. That was it three
films that took up three books,

right? Yeah. And then, then you
get the Hobbit, which is the

shortest book of all that they
made three movies out of,

I know, but, and I know, if some
people weren't the purest,

probably not have been, you
know, as content with those

movies. But you gotta, can't
deny, they're amazing. They're

amazing, yeah. So once a year
you got to watch all three of

those. Brother, so awesome to
have you here. We can go on and

on forever, but I love this. I'm
a huge fan, I mean, a huge fan,

and I'm making Jim a huge fan
today. Thanks,

buddy. Yeah, very comfy.

It's very comfy here in the
studio. You know, we love some

dance moves, yeah? Because we
like the dance studios.

Yes, cowbell.

We should. We should have a
cowbell on site. So everybody

show up for the the big
Humphries McGee tour this year,

starting July 4 in Wallingford,
Connecticut, Connecticut

Westport, West

and then, I mean, you're from
the East Coast, we're both

conditions, yeah. Oh, really,
yeah, we're both conditions to

hold it against us. I'm from
Milford, Connecticut, and he's

from Danbury, Connecticut.
Danbury, yeah. And everybody,

check out Chris myers as Chris
myers drums.com he's on all the

socials. Hit him with a DM say,
Hey man, I love your stuff. I

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See ya. Thanks. Chris, thank you
rich man. Jim. Thank you guys.

Thank you, Jim, yeah, yeah.

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