The Rich Redmond Show

Unknown: Goes back to the
writing. You know, the King of

Queens are really good writers,
and Seinfeld is good writers.

And it's hard to develop good
writers in today's world,

because not too many people want
to sit in front of a computer,

look at a blank screen and then
take criticism for

it. This is the rich Redmond
show, ladies and gentlemen,

here we are live at the rich
Redmond show. Listen

to that door. That's baritone.
Where are

we? Again, that's nice. We are
in Spring Hill, Tennessee,

spring where

you live here. See, I don't live
here. I live in St Louis. Okay,

I live everywhere. Lately. I'm
like, all over North Hollywood,

yeah, St Louis, St Louis. And

you made the five hour trek in
today with with your friends.

You got Chris and mark in the
house. That's is here

for Chris and Mark. Here we go.
All right, as we previously

mentioned, my hair is I'm losing
my hair lately. I'm going with

these different items here, like
taking the hems. Oh,

how's the hymns working? I don't
know. I started like, you gotta

wait about 90 days,

right? Yeah, we see the
difference. And now we got the

other stuff. Eta Durham is
shampoo. It's, I don't know if

it's working or not, but I give
it a go, and I get this other

stuff, give it a go, and then a
doctor gave me this other pill.

Give that a go. Yeah. But, you
know, losing the hand you get

your finasteride, and that's
very difficult for us Italians

as part of our our thing is that
we want a nice head of hair as

we're chowing down on a nice
plate of pasta

like now. I'm just glad my
hammer still works. So that's

all right, man. I mean, be it
Italian, you know, you got your

hair, but you got your hammer
too. Yeah, got the hammer to

work. So if I had a choice, I'd
lose the hair, keep the hammer.

Yeah, that's true. You can

always shave your head. You get
Oh, yeah.

And little limiting for for
parts, yeah, you know, because

then you're that guy,

you're the bald guy, right?
You're the ball guy, right?

Worked out for Michael Chiklis.

It worked great for Bruce
Willis, you know, for the most

part, yeah, he did guide, right?
Hey, Michael Chiklis is another

cat that plays the drums, and
let's just get this out. The

elephant in the room is that
there are so many drummers here.

Larry smashes a set of drums.
Jim smashes a set of drums eyes.

And it's later. We got, I passed
out some hand drums. We got some

L we got an LP set of tabletop
bongos. We got an old toca, like

a, it's like a portable cojone.
And then I got this little

sonar, and all these things are
pretty time tested. They've been

on a lot of recordings. But
we're gonna just jam, man. We'll

just do them, pull a McCarthy
later, and we'll do a little

jam. When you say, pull him a
kind, Hey, what is that? Because

he likes to play his bongos in
the in the nude. Oh, you know,

that's his thing. It taps into
his primal

that's his only fans.

That's just, that's crazy. Yeah,
they were talking about doing

only fans to people like, oh,
you can't do an only fan. Just

good for girls with, you know,
this daddy out of Dang, I'm

like,

only music fans, right?

The impetus of that site was
more of a pure approach, sure,

and for your fans, yeah, you
know. And then it just went a

different direction. Well, I

think our friend, I got to watch
it. But, you know, the drum

icon, Russ Miller has a new site
called, I think it's called only

Drum Fans. And I'm like, You are
smart. That's a very smart

thing. You know,

I'm going to look up right now,
as we're talking to see if fans

only is available.

Fans only just flip it, flip it,
just flip it. A new venture.

Make it like the Christian do
only fans, which I'm not going

to, like, take my clothes off.
I'm going to put music up on

there, because that's what it
was supposed to do, yeah,

basically, Patreon, rights.
Patreon, right? I'm going on

Patreon too. It's like, you
know, we talk about musicians,

because nowadays it's like, you
put a song up on a streaming

and, you know, we don't get
paid, as if we don't have to

eat, like, fractions, fractions
of a penny. Yeah, it's nonsense.

So, like, I'm thinking, like,
okay, so we cut this great

track, God bless America. Yeah,
tell us about, well, tell us

about that. Well, I had this
thing inside me, man, you know,

like, okay, really, it wasn't
like the Irvin Berlin version,

you know what? I mean, it was
just that thing, you know, God

bless America. You know, you
drive across America, and I'm

going here and there, and, like,
yeah, you know, there's so many

beautiful places in America, so
many different kinds of really

cool people, you know,
especially coming New York and

Los Angeles and St Louis and
Nashville and Chicago. And we

meet a lot of great people, all
these little and you go on tour,

you meet a lot of really cool
people. Man, it's like, you

know, and America's coming under
fire, and whatever, everybody,

whatever, so on and so forth. We
know what the temperature is

and, and it's like, no, man, you
know. Like, this is like, you

know. So I had this thing I
wanted to do, like, with

guitars, because, you know, I
like guitars, yeah, you know.

And then, like, you know, I'm
banging on drums. I call them

the bongos. No matter what it
could be a trap set. It could be

whatever it's, the bongos, yeah,
in the bongos. And like, you

know, come up with this thing.
And next thing, you know, you

know, how it went, is that, you
know, with these cats down to

Illinois, right? And it was
like, you know, they jam out.

And, like, I brought it to them,
and we, like, finagle doing it a

little bit, yeah, which you
heard a little bit of that, you

know. And then it was like,
coming, like, what are we going

to. Do like, and then Michael
goodnight says, Yo, why don't we

get rich to lay the drums? And
it's like, yeah, right, let's do

that. And next thing, you know,
like, Michael goodnight, is the

guy to introduce me and rich,
right? What's up? Michael, Mike,

he did the score for Saturday,
you know, park the movie which

rich plays the drums on, you
know, a whole bunch of stuff.

Post the trailer, whatever. So
now it's like, we're on zoom

with you

over there, Tony Morris, place
downtown. Battery, yeah,

and you're doing the drums, and
me and Michael in North

Hollywood, California.
Technology, technology is good

is it's not the greatest thing
in the world, but it is good. It

works for like, it's got its
place, right? It's like

everything else. And next thing
you know, we got this great drum

track that you went off of a
drum track like I recorded

myself at amp rehearsal in North
Hollywood on my cell phone. Is

that where you were? Yeah, and
sent it to you, and then blah,

blah, blah. And next thing, you
know, you laid a kick ass drum

track. And I tried to work it
out with this other cat who just

took it in a total different
direction, yeah, you know. And I

was like, bro, it's not
happening, man. He got a little

offended, but he's a great
musician, great creative guy.

I'm like, bro, just ain't
hitting man. And I ended up

bringing it over and sending it
to Derek in St Peter's,

Missouri, which is St Peter, st,
Louis, st, Charles. A lot of

saints in that area. I'm not
going to say I'm one of them,

but no,

okay, so Larry, it really was a,
it was a creative it was a

creative process.

Oh, yeah, really straight up.
And it's like, it's like, went

from this to that to that, next
thing, you know, you know, with

your drum track. Yeah, we were
at the Ozarks, and we took your

drum track, sent it to Derek in
St Peter's, and I went from the

Ozarks with these guys, Mark and
Chris, drove all the way up in

an electric car, which means you
have to stop and get charged

every now and then. It's not
easy to get charged as it is to

just go pump petrol in the
sucker. I know it's less

expensive and it's quiet and all
of that stuff, but like, it's 30

minutes we're sitting there.
Like, what's going on, man?

Like, you know, I mean, it's
like an old, like an old flip

phone. You got to charge it,
right? So, next thing you know,

I'm a Derek's and we got your
drum track, and I just laid a

vocal to your drum track. Yep.
And then Derek went to, went,

went to California, yeah, with a
hard drive. No, not even, like,

he just went to California
because he wanted to go see his

mom, which is cool. So, like,
he's in California, and then I

don't even know where I was at
that point in time, I guess I

was in New York, and we're
trying to figure out how to do

this. And he's like, Oh, we got
a couple of them on a Monday

night. Plane lands at eight
o'clock, and we're going to, you

know, go to the studio. We're
going to lay drums and guitar

and bass, you know. And, okay,
cool, because Chris over here,

he's got, what's the name of a
saw horse. He's got sawhorse

booked for July 2. So we got to
get everything in order. So

Derek, to his credit, get
delayed. Plane gets in at like,

one o'clock in the morning. Saw
another friend of ours at the

airport, Savannah Lee, who her
plane was delayed like 11 hours,

where she was going, which is a
whole other journey. And she's

super talented too. That's how I
met Chris through Savannah Lee.

And she's got some good music
coming out too. You'll be on the

lookout for her, right? And now,
so now Derek and her actually

crossed paths in the airport in
St Louis. What a coincidence,

right? Derek goes home. I don't
know what he did anyhow, the

next morning I show up at his
house, he's got bass and guitar

already dropped to your drums,
yeah, and we did

this whole thing over the
internet, and I do today, I do

want to listen to it, Larry, and
I appreciate you asking me to

play drums. And I think it's
super funky. It's almost like,

it's kind of like, you know,
like tone, Loke, you know,

hanging out with fish bone,
hanging out with Run DMC, big

guitars, but people are probably
gonna know who is this guy with

the cool shades, and let's just
tell everybody. Hailing from

Mount Vernon, New York, he's
called Los Angeles home for a

long time now. Calling St Louis
home. He's coming to Nashville

more and more. He's a film and
TV actor, writer and producer.

He's also a singer songwriter,
producer, and he wrote and

directed a new film called
Saturday in the park that we

both kind of collaborated on.
It's going to drop sometime this

year in 2024 we're super excited
about that. It's sort of a film

festival film, a very, very,
very cool we're going to see a

clip from it. But just as an
actor, look at some of these

credits. King of Queens, Donnie
Brasco, thin, red line. NYPD,

blue. CSI, New York, LA law
lockup, he's worked with actors

like Bucha no Depp, Sean Penn,
Mickey Rourke, Madonna

Sylvester, Stallone, highly
accomplished, and our friend,

Larry Romano, that's who's in
the house.

The music, the music is the
connection at all times.

The thing is, is that the Muses
connection at all times. And you

know, I respect and admire you
as an actor. And you know, King

of Queens, I had the box sets my
band is a big fan of the band,

so when the song, when that show
was out, and then even after

that, in the early days of
touring with Al Dean, we used to

have DVD players in all of our
bunks, and we were living on.

Road, man, we were gone like 320
days a year. So in between

shows, we'd stop at Walmarts and
we would get the, you know, I

buy a new season at Camp queens,
or I buy a new season of

Everybody Loves Raymond. We pop
men, and we hear all these

laughter coming from the
different bunks. So we love the

show. And later, I want to play
some of the highlights of, you

know, you know, Queen cousin
Richie. I mean, he was the

cousin of Doug hefferny. Wasn't

he's the friend, the friend the
five man friend. Yeah, exactly,

you know,

in the meantime, this is, this
is a tune called God Bless

America that you guys,
literally, over the course of a

month, wrote, tracked from a
variety of cities, and then

mixed and mastered. You want to
hear it? Jim here a little bit.

Well, pop it up. There's a
cowbell in there too. Cowbell

while

the storm clouds gather from
across the sea. Let us swear

allegiance to a land that's
free. Let us all be grateful for

this land we all share as we
raise our voices in solemn

prayer, God Bless

America through the night with
the light from above. Yeah. Out,

who knew that Irving Berlin
could rock like that dude? Well,

it's really not him, it's us,
yes,

just kind of took off on that
lyric and all of that, and we

did another version lyrically,
yeah, where I just, you know,

and the third verse to this is,
like, fresh lyrics, yeah, you

know, because he covers it was
written in 1918 and then we, I

guess we recorded in 1939 we're
in 2025 you know, we want to say

God bless America, but there's a
lot of things that have changed

about America in the last so on,
almost 100 years, right? Years

or more, really, and but it's
still the greatest country in

the world, and it's where people
from all over the world meet to

come as one, yes, and you never
really when I very, very look,

I'm not a very formally educated
person. I did a little bit of

community college, and I did
this sociology class, and he

says that the teacher said that
to America, New York is the

world to the world. New York is
America, yes. And, you know, and

now I go to New York just
recently on my recent journey,

and I'm up in the Bronx with a
whole group of people, different

ethnic type, and then I'm, you
know, then from this, I was up

in a luxury suite in the Bronx,
and then I'm down on the streets

in the Bronx, which I love, that
the if you ever go to Yankee

Stadium. You got to go to the
Yankee twin see my friend Eleni,

the Greek goddess. She's got the
Yankee twins. You got the DJ

blasting. And I come from the
suites of the Yankee Stadium

with Ronnie Bloomberg, Mickey
rivers, two time world series

champion, right? All those cats
and blah, blah, blah, you're a

huge baseball guy, let's just
say baseball people. And next

thing, you know, I'm crossing
river Avenue after the game to

the Yankee twin, and they got
Nelly from St Louis, blasting

out the speakers, yeah? So,
like, you know what I mean,

that's what they're blasting,
you know, and everybody's

dancing. You got this whole
eclectic vibe. And then from

there, I went to a party with my
Haitian friends out in Brooklyn,

yeah, next year? No, I'm at a
karaoke at like 2am on a Monday

morning.

It's the melting pot of all
melting

pots. And there's people singing
in Spanish, singing Russian

songs, karaoke, singing a rock
and roll, singing soul music.

And yeah, and, you know? So, I
mean, yes, as far as New York,

it's ingrained in me, you know.
But now, as I branch out and I

see the rest of the world,
always, I had a chance, chance

to be in Los Angeles, which is
that now I'm in the Midwest, and

it's bad, man. I love it badass.
I mean, was in a good way. You

like, you enjoy your time in the
Midwest. Absolutely, man, is a

lot of elbow room. And there's a
whole, you know, there's a good

there's culture here too.

I like about Spring Hill,
Tennessee. You got some nice

sidewalks. Birds are chirping.
Kids are playing. I got to be

slower when I back out. I don't
want to you know, the kids are

playing, playing ball in the
street.

That's good. Playing ball on the
street is good.

But let me tell you this. I
think that most people you know

would say, oh my god, this guy
is a New Yorker, Mount Vernon,

New York. Tell us about your new
york experience coming up as a

child, your folks was there
music in the house,

yeah? You know, like people
mistake me. They go the Bronx.

I've never, I never lived in the
Bronx. Mount Vernon, New York,

is the closest I got. Two houses
down was the border, and that

was pretty much the majority of
my life, in the first two and a

half decades of my life, yeah.
And on the south side of Mount

Vernon, it was a lot of people
that came up from the south,

maybe the they were descendants
of slaves, maybe two, maybe two,

three generations before. So
they had that, you know, that

thing going on right there. But
everybody was real cool with

each other. And you listening to
am radio on the transistor radio

on the hood of a Chevy when
you're five, you know, six,

seven years old, and it's
playing an am. That Motown

stuff. And then my father moved
us up to Rockland County, is a

half hour north of the Bronx,
and across the bridge, across

the bridge, you're familiar with
New York, right? And, you know,

and it's looking back on, it was
Nyack tap in, and it was, it was

a lot of Bronx kids with fresh
air in their lungs. Did you go

to the Long Island drum setter
up there? Long Island drum

setter. You know, Long Island
accuses me a Nyack, yes, right.

I've been there nice

drum shop. Well, there was
Manny's, there was Manny's

writing,

yeah, yeah. Mash, right.

Being in Mount Vernon, though,
another actor came out of there

who was a part of the Boys and
Girls Club, I guess he was a big

part of it. He also gave back to
it quite a bit. Was old Denzel.

Denzel Washington, right? Yeah,
he was a few years ahead of me.

Denzel, a lot of talent comes
out, well, a lot of talent comes

out of stat out of Mount Vernon,
New York in general, right? And

I was, and, you know, Rockland
County, where I went for, you

know, Mount Vernon was always
the constant, because that's

where my Aunt Nancy lived, and
she was like my grandmother, 209

South 12th Avenue. And that was,
I always that vibe, you know,

Rockland County for many years
for that was the country. It was

a little bit but it was that
country was Bronx kids with

fresh air in it. Yeah. You know,
my first band that I had in high

school was with Danny Spitz, who
went on to form anthrax. That's

right, that's right. So that was
like my first band, you know?

And so when did you start
playing drums? Larry, well, in

Mount Vernon, New York, the
fabrio School of Music. I was

maybe five years old, and I was
in there. And it started really

because of my family, not blood
related. My uncle, Carmine, Jim

and azo, who was married to my
mother's sister, right? His son,

Jerry, played the accordion. And
Jerry had two kids who had four

sons, Ricky and Buddy were the
two. Oldest Bud was on drums and

Rick was on bass. Rick went on
to, like, do a lot of the

orchestration for a lot of Sony
movies. Okay, big time stuff,

you know. And Bud is he went on
to write and direct feature

films, independent feature
films, in the States. He's out

in Germany now. He's doing a lot
of television, promptly, like

very prominent German TV out
there. So Bud was on the drums.

He was an inspiration. So at the
family parties, I see cousin bud

on the drums. But I just took to
the drums. I mean, you're a

drummer, you know, you just kind
of take to it. You just, we've

jammed over at Tony's place.
Yeah, two kids. It was great.

Yeah, we played it up and and so
that, you know, that's the

foundation, I guess the family
parties that you because you get

in a mix and then, you know,
playing the drums. But

my parents never wanted me to be
in the music. Least

my father didn't, yeah, well,
what was your trajectory for

them? What they want you to

do? My father wanted me to play
center field for the New York

game like DiMaggio, the magic
three on five days. It's

like, I want you to be a
policeman or a fireman or go

into the trades or something.
No, I want you to be a baseball

player. But

not only that, center field,

he set the bar, but you played

a lot. I played, and I wasn't
very good. I had some really

good years coming up, and it had
some really not so good years,

because my head wasn't into it.
My head was more into girls and

rock and

roll. But it allows you all
these years later, to be a super

fan of the game.

I Yeah, you know, I could name
this, that the other thing, and

then getting to go to Yankee
Stadium, hanging out with Mickey

Rives, was the center fielder
for the Yankees when they won a

World Series in 77 and 78 so I
was 1415, years old. Make the

quick was one of my like, whoa.
You know Ronnie Bloomberg. He

was another guy. He was a
Yankee. And so we talk a lot of

baseball. You know baseball, and
you know all time, NFL,

football. You

know your stats, buddy, you were
ripping off the stats backstage.

Yeah. Two years ago you saw us
at the Hollywood Amphitheater in

St Louis, and we usually play
that every year sometime in July

or August. It's always the
hottest temperature wise show of

the year. I mean, you I have to
hydrate and drink Gatorade all

day long because it is an
intense show. But yeah, you were

ripping the stats backstage. So
you know the game you playing

drums. Now, you told me, before
you got into acting, music was

always in your life. Love of
baseball was always in your

life. Before you got into
acting, you went to the Fashion

Institute of Technology. Did you
finish?

No, okay, no, no, school, formal
education wasn't my thing. How

long were you at fit like, it's
two semesters, taking night

courses, yeah, well, my father
was in a garment business. Oh,

okay, you know, he had dress
factories up in Mount Vernon,

New York, and cutting rooms and
stuff like that. So, but, you

know, by the time I came of age,
the garment business was moving

out of the country. And, you
know, being a drummer, they came

up with a drum machine, and
music in New York was changing

at that point, yeah, which is
some of like the movie that you

played the drums on the score
Saturday Park is about a kid

who's a drummer. Yeah, tell

us. Tell us about, tell us about
the the

story behind that play, which
became the film that you

directed, and the plot.

The plot. The storyline is that,
well, it's semi

autobiographical, and is that,
you know, here's this kid, he's

a drummer, and his parents are
putting the pressure on him that

you gotta, you know, you gotta
start paying rent, you gotta get

a union job. You gotta, you know
that, that and the other thing.

And here's a drummer in New York
City, where the music was

changing, the sound was
changing, and they come up with

the drum machine. So he's really
cooked, you know? And it's about

him deciding what he wanted to
do with his life, moving forward

as a drummer, you know, when
they come up with the drum

machine. Now we're looking at AI
that's taken over everything,

right? Yeah, if you go back, you
know, you go back, okay, it's

like, you know, the ice man
who's to deliver ice to

residents, right? Oh, yeah. You
know, they come up with the

residential ice box, the
residential refrigerator, so

he's out of business. And now
you look at the drummer who's

facing the drum machine in New
York City night. But we all

survived it. We survived with
the drugs, because the music is

you can't what you did that day
and all of that and the

camaraderie, you can't beat it.
Man, no, you can't be just no

computers going to do it. Man, I
think,

I think we're safe. AI is going
to be here. New drum machines,

new technology is coming, but
you can't replace the head and

the heart and the spirituality
and what the collective energy

when people get to collaborate
in a room. So, so really, it is

the tale of but it's two
friends, Danny and Mike, yep.

Danny, Mike, yeah. And the And
what's wonderful about the film

is somebody you know, who did
study acting in Los Angeles for

five years, got my sad card. I
got to see these two great young

actors. And the scene is final
scene in the movie. I can't tell

you, because it totally be a
spoiler, but it's a 13 minute

scene. It's pretty long. Yeah,
it might be longer than 13

minutes. It might be even longer
than 13 minutes. And I asked

you, like, hey, that wasn't
like, one take, was it? And you

laughed at me like it took,
like, one night, whole COVID.

What happened was it took a
couple days. And, you know, I

knew that. I knew and you know,
someday we'll be able to get the

behind the scenes footage out
there, because I knew that once

it warms up in the Bronx,
because we shot it entirely in

the Bronx, once it starts to
warm up in the Bronx, forget

about Thursday, Friday, Saturday
night. You're not filming out

there, because there's too many
people that are coming out and

they just want to get out there,
and they want to be the warm

weather. They want to be out on
the street, yep. So we lost a

couple days because of that.
Then it was some other stuff

that went down that we could
that could have been helped, but

wasn't. So it took about five
days to film that, you know, but

you know, the actors were right
on. As you can see, they're

really happening those actors,
what

are those two young cats doing
now? Please tell me they're

still in the biz. Well,

we lost track of Aaron. Aaron
sauter, he was played Mikey. He

pretty much disappeared. That's
crazy, yeah, off of social

media, off of every day, maybe
something tragic happened. I

think we kind of would have
known that, right? Yeah, you

know. I mean, maybe he's turned
into a monk or a Buddhist or

something like that, I don't
know, but he was fantastic in

the role. As you know, I
originally read him for the role

of Danny, but when he read for
Mikey, when he read for Danny, I

knew he was Mikey. Well, I
played both roles on stage. So I

played not, not at the same
time, when we did it as a work

in progress with Ana Strasburg
at the Lee Strasberg Theater

Institute that I played Danny
the drummer. Greg heck played

Mikey the guitar player. Okay,
then we went off, off Broadway.

I played Danny again. Michael
oselini, he played, he played

Mikey. Okay, that's where
Stallone's casting agency, Agent

found me. Joy Todd, she found
me. She cast me in a movie with

Sylvester Stallone called
lockup, yeah. Then when we did

it in Los Angeles, I played
Mikey and Walt Woodson played

Danny, so I was very familiar
with both roles. Wow. So that

the part, I mean, that's
actually a an acting exercise

that I have been privy to, which
is very hard, because you have

to wrap your you got to wrap
your head around the other

person in that same scene. Yeah,

it's a lot of back and forth.
It's playing off each other. And

then every play, every
production of the play, went

really well. It evolved. And
then as far as when we got to

casting it, you know, Aaron sort
of got red for Danny, but I cast

him as Mikey, yeah. And then we
had another actor who I wanted

to cast musicians that were real
musicians so they could put a

soundtrack together. And Mikey's
a real musician, and I cast

another kid. He was really good,
and he was a drummer, so I put

him above the eventual Danny,
who was Ilya Constantine, but

then he didn't show up for
rehearsals. What? Yeah, anyway,

Oh, I gotta go skiing in Aspen.
Don't blow your chances, kids.

So I had to get rid of him. That
sucks. And that's where Ilya

Constantine came in. He had five
days to learn the script

at that is a lot of dialog,
dialog, man. So that's very

impressive. Yeah, it was good.
Let me ask you this, and it

seems like you look out for your
friends, because now Victor

Williams, yeah, played Doug
Heffernan. Friends in the King

of Queens, co worker, and you
cast him, yeah? So you guys kept

in touch over the years, yeah.
And then wasn't Chuck Zito in

the Sopranos. Chuck Zito, and I
don't think Chuck, I mean, he's

been in a lot of Italian,
American based movies, wasn't

he? I could have sworn

he was in Oz tonight. Oz in
grave Zen, yeah. Big part in

Osman, right? And, you know, he
plays a tough guy, because he's

a legitimate tough guy, let's
face it, right? So, you know,

he's always been cast as that
role. So when I what I wanted to

do is I cast him as, you know,
as the loving, caring father,

yes. And you know, people like,
What do you mean? Chuck is a no.

Because, you know, when you're
writing and directing stuff, you

know, you look at these actors.
You look at no matter how

interesting they are as a
person, as an actor, they're

1000 times more interesting as a
person. So, you know, here's

this guy who's known for being
the former president of a

motorcycle club, you know, tough
guy, so on and so forth. Leader,

yeah, all that stuff you know,
and, and it's like there's more

to him than that, you know. And
to be able to know, knowing him,

you know, knowing him, seeing
him in certain situations, okay,

I could cast him as that role,
which is more exciting for me

than to, like, cast a guy
straight on as a tough guy.

Yeah, you know, it's more fun to
play like that. So. But all this

comes from decades of study and
acting, studying movies, being

in movies, being in TV shows,
and people ask me if I want to

go back into acting. And
sometimes I say, I don't know,

you know, like, I don't like,
really playing certain roles,

you know,

please tell me that. Please tell
me you enjoyed the part on the

can Queens because you were

spectacular. Yeah, I did. I had
some fun with it and but here's

the, here's the thing is that I,
you know, you talk about, you do

some of that positive stuff,
like all that stuff. So

motivational, yeah, the
motivational stuff. So now here

I am, okay. I used to visualize
because, you know, here look at,

look at how it goes. My father
was basically, you know, trying

to grooming me to play center
field for the Yankees. Look at

the long shot, bro, yeah, you
know, I mean, like, that's that.

Then he's in the garment
business, which basically, not

basically, is going overseas. So
I'm cooked on that one, right?

And then you got the drum and
stuff and got the drum machine.

I'm cooked. I'm done, yeah?
Like, how do I really figure

this out, how to make something
happen? Like, I'm dead in the

water at 22 years old, right?
With no education and but I

wasn't giving up. I mean, so
does that take you to Los

Angeles acting, because I was
going down Seventh Avenue or

Broadway one day, and you open
up one of those boxes with the

newspaper in it, or a pamphlet,
and it was for the Learning

Annex. And it was different
classes. Want to learn how to

play piano, which I took that
one I'm not which it was fun.

One to How To Lose Your New York
accents, which I have no

business trying to lose my New
York accent because, you know,

later on, I found out that,
like, it was a selling point for

you, right, exactly. And there's
a whole other story with that

one. And then there was a
commercial acting class, Whis

Barron. And when I went, I said,
let me give it a go, you know, I

mean, because I got to figure
out how I'm gonna eat, right?

And I went in there and I read,
and, you know, there was a

class, and it was a whole group
of people, and, you know, New

Yorkers, I was probably
considered more like a bridge

and tunnel person, you know,
from the outer boroughs coming

into Manhattan, which is more
worldly. And it was a lot of

people in there that, you know,
it was a little slightly

intimidated. You could tell they
probably did four years of

college, or maybe even all of
that. And here I am with maybe

one, two years of community
college, which I really, you

know, didn't grab much out of
it, right? So, except from that

note from the sociology teacher
and but when I read, I said, You

know what? Just keep going
straight forward, man, just do

it. And I did, you know,
sometimes you get nervous and

you feel like the heat's coming
out the top of your head. And I

was it, but the teacher says you
got something. So when she said,

You got something, I remember,
you know, driving home, I had

this Audi with a blanc stereo,
and like, 120 watt, watt amp

system in the back. And I'm
cranking Van Halen, because I

was, do you know, I'm into Van
Halen totally, totally, was into

Van Halen and David Lee Roth.
And, of course, we talk about

that in the movie Saturday in
the park, but I'm driving there,

and I'm thinking, like, I'm
gonna get into acting, and I'm

gonna make money with acting,
because I don't have to worry

about a drum machine. I don't
have to worry about getting a

band together. I could do this
on my own, right? Because, you

know, when you get a band
together, there's always a guy

that, even up till now, just
three months ago, I thought I

had a band, and next thing, you
know, the guy's like, oh, I

don't know, my wife ain't gonna
let me do it and all of this

stuff. I'm like, what? Yeah,
there's always the the weakest

link, you know what I mean. So,
like, I'm on there on my own.

So, like, what happens is, I
says I'm gonna work and get some

acting gigs, and then I'll be
able to go on to music, yeah?

And so I got the movie with
Stallone, then I ended up

working with Madonna. And, you
know. Her story was like, Oh

yeah, I'm going to do music and
get into movies. Which she did,

you know, she did what she
wanted to do. You were in one of

her videos, right? I did the
video. Oh, Father with her,

okay, where, you know, which was
a black and white video David

Fincher directed, he went on to
direct seven and a lot of great

movies. What a fantastic thing,
right? You know? And so now I'm

sitting there. I have
responsibilities. As a young

man, I had kids, so I didn't
want to leave them like living

in squalor. So I did whatever I
had to do to survive, but I

wanted to do music all the time,
and movies are a boom, a hit,

boom. Next thing you know,
you're going to Australia for

five months, which was great on
a thin red line. But then what's

your next gig? So I like, I
started to, first of all, once I

got into acting, I would
visualize myself with Stallone,

which I ended up working with
Stallone. So the visualization

stuff worked. I visualized I had
the Rolling Stone magazine with

Madonna and Rosanna or cat on
the cover. I kept that on my

wall. And then next thing you
know, within you know, I was

working with Madonna. So like, I
visualized all that you are

tapped into the law of
attraction. Larry, I was tapped

in pretty seriously. And I'm I
kind of tapped out for a while,

and I got to tap in again, yeah,
but, and I'm working on that,

but so because as years go by,
you know, I realized that, you

know, you see how people get
beat down, you know. But to keep

going, you know. So now, what I
figured out after the Stallone

movie, if I get a TV show, I
could be my own record label. So

I got a TV show, so my
responsibility is to keeping a

roof over kids house. And, you
know, keep keep a roof over the

kids and feeding them. How many

kids you got? I got three, and
the most of them are in Los

Angeles now. Well,

yeah, well, yeah, you know, they
are where they are, and they

grown man, but I'm like, I did
my thing. I did what I had to

do, you know? And when I got the
TV show, I was able to finance

rehearsals, recordings, the
whole bit, and we recorded three

albums.

Now, is this in New York, or is
this one Sunset Strip with Los

Angeles? Yeah, with some of
these cast of characters, which

is like Ty Dennis, who played
with the doors, and Robbie

Krieger the new doors. And then
you had a who's Lance Morrison.

No, I work with and Lance
Morrison on some other tracks.

Yeah, that you know my cousin
Ricky, and I Ricky the guy that

he's he's the base cousin who
ended up orchestrating a lot of

music for Sony Records or movies
and stuff like that. So Ricky

and I wrote two songs when I was
in Los Angeles, when he came

down to Los Angeles, and back in
91 when we were doing the play

in Saturday and park, yeah. And
then he found a cat named Jimmy

Hunter, who was from Detroit,
and we went and did 16 track,

uh, one inch tape, but with a
drum machine, yeah, but Jimmy's

a drummer. He's really good with
the vocals and doing stuff like

that. And Jimmy brought in Lance
Morrison, Penny wonzo, Keith

Howland, Jimmy Corey, Johnny
duva, yeah. And Lee Thornberg,

uh, Tom Pollock on a horns.

So, So Keith every Keith is a
friend, and he played 20 years

with Chicago, and you got Lance
Morrison, who played bass on

Jagged Little Pill and Ty Dennis
and I were buddies. We're

Facebook friends, small world.
Man, yeah, so the music and the

acting were all kind of going
together. You're studying at the

least Strasbourg. That was

back in 8687 by this time I'm in
LA and, you know, and I tapped

into all that music. And, you
know, these guys, they hadn't,

Lance had not played with, you
know, this is before he played

with, honest, right? Yeah,
before Keith was with Chicago,

Jimmy Corey, he's a fan. He
ended up with Beth Hart. Oh,

nice. Beth Hart, you know,
she's, she rocks. Oh, right,

exactly. You know, Johnny Dover,
at that point, already played

with, I think Johnny Edgar,
winter, or something like that.

But, um, and those, that's a
different sound. And Lee

Thornburg, Tom Pollock, they
must have played with, like,

maybe tower power. They got to,
they that hammers. They call

them hammers, you know. But once
I got the King of Queens, the

goal, the dream was to have a
quartet, whereas bass guitar

drums, and that's where Ty
Dennis came in on drums, Angelo

Barbera on the bass, who's like
a, just, he's a, he's a, I don't

know. He's just a wild hammer,
man. He's a jackhammer. He says,

some of the stuff he does, he's
unique, yeah. And then Mick was

on guitar, and then I was just
like, doing what I do, groveling

and saying my lyrics, scream my
lyrics and the feelings. And we

ended up, so the King of Queens,
when we talk about how fun it

was. So I would be going to
this, you know, TV sitcom, CBS,

yeah, which, you know, it's,
they have the network and the

studio and the analytics, and
they all of this stuff. And then

I'm going, like, flipping the
hat, and, you know, putting on a

different hat, and then just
going into a studio, usually,

amp rehearsal in North
Hollywood. And North Hollywood

was not the way it is right now.
It's gentrified. There was,

like, the buildings that are
there now were not there, yeah,

you know. And. And and it just
had that vibe. And next thing

you know, I'm going into this
rehearsal room with these

musicians who obviously went on
to that, obviously went on to do

great things, so they're no
joke. So it was just Wild Rock

and Roll and, like, rah and that
was really what it was. So I go

from the corporate TV

show. Yes, is America's network.
That's the family network,

right? You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. Then you're, you're
living a double life. Larry, so

that show ran from 1998 to 2007
and what? What seasons were you

on? I was in the first two
seasons 1998 1999 Yeah, amazing.

And if for those that don't
remember, you got Kevin James,

who played Doug hefferman, who
is a delivery man for a sort of

like a faux ups. You had Leia
Remini, who played Carrie

Heiferman. And, of course, God
rest his soul. Comedic genius

Jerry Stiller played Arthur
Spooner. Oh, my God, he's

hilarious. And then your buddy,
Victor Williams, and then Patton

Oswalt. Patton Oswalt actually
played the voice of an animated

character when I did my acting
part with Christopher Maloney

from law and order on a
television show called Happy on

the Sci Fi Channel. So Patton
was the voice of an animated

character. So I had to act, and
there was like an ant. They put

in this animated character
between me and Maloney. And it

was, dude, it was so fun. I
mean, just to be thrown in the

deep end of the pool. Like,
here's this super, multi decade

trained thespian actor,
Christopher Maloney, and here's

this drummer with a little
acting training that got this

job, and they throw me into the
deep end of the pool and action.

And I, dude, I hit my mark and I
I did my thing. Yeah, yeah.

Crushed.

I heard some things,

things little bit. Now, before I
really want to play the trailer

to we heard God bus America, I
want to play the trailer to

Saturday in the park. But can we
quickly do this little best of

compilation of your character?
Richie on the gay queens, just

for everybody can have some nice
belly laughs. So I love the

show, and it runs reruns all the
time, which means you do

Hillary checks? Would you do
Hillary? That's a whole story,

right? Lady, you got to do it.

I don't know. She's

filling out that skirt a little
bit too much for my

taste. Nah, see, I love a little
jiggle, jiggle on the first

lady. Hey, moose.

Question for you, now that your
wife's sister moved in, the two

of them, ever you know, get into
an argument, then maybe start

whacking each other with
pillows. Next thing you know, a

little playful wrestling leads
to a lingering because

I'm asking. Oh, somebody's
cranky. Hey, Santa Claus, you

missed.

Moose, relax. We got you
covered. Hey, Chens, go get me a

big stick. If we whack him,
maybe candy will come out.

This is where he

the hell is this

a new car? No, seriously, what
is

it? It's a car. Hey, maybe you
spent some time in Luxembourg.

You wouldn't ask him stupid
questions.

Where did clowns come out

so you find anything you want to
watch yet,

no. Daytime TV is brutal.

What are we supposed to watch?
What the way we were on the

romance channel,

that on anybody want to watch
it?

You? No,

hey, hey, this remote. It keeps
jumping around. Hey, moose. Hey,

Richard, listen, sorry. I'm
late. I was at OTB, and I just

kept winning trifectas. The
exact is a couple Daily Doubles.

Unbelievable, boom. $28 Mom's

coming in from St Louis. I got
to pick a gotta pick her up from

the airport that

night. St Louis. Oh, she could
watch Ultimate Fighting with us.

Hell, I met her. She could be in
it.

St Louis, Larry, great stuff.
Hey. So what was the schedule on

this sitcom you're rehearsing
Monday through Thursday? You go

live in front of a studio
audience. Studio audience on

Friday,

right? Yeah. So we get the,
let's say we filmed on Friday

night. So Friday night, we go
back to, you know, come home,

and they would, I guess
nowadays, they email you a

script, but we would have a hard
copy of the script at our front

door or wherever we were living.
And then, you know, so you got

sad, you know, you peruse
through it Friday, because

you're still coming down off the
show, which I know, you know

what that's about. And then, um,
and then, you know, Saturday,

maybe dabble a little bit,
Sunday, a little then Monday,

you'd have a reading with the
cast and maybe the network and

the studio, and you maybe
rehearse a little bit. Then you

go home early. Me. Tuesday, you
come back, there's new pages,

rehearse a little bit, go home.
Wednesday, you really start

hitting it. You're reading for
the studio. You're reading for

the network. Final tune ups.
Thursday is when they start

doing the lights, they blocking,
and you block in and that stuff.

And then, you know, Friday, you
come in for your hair, your

makeup, a bop it, Bing, and then
you shoot the show, and you go

home, start all

over again. And it's like a live
thing with a live studio. It's

mostly tourists coming into, you
know, Los Angeles, and maybe

they get the pizza and they get
them all excited. You got a warm

up cook comedian. Hey, you guys
ready to see the That sounds

exciting? It really is good,
man. I don't know what the

current state of sitcoms are,
but I think that the

laugh tracks are, I don't know
they sound, yeah, and that the

new high definition thing is
weird. So I think that the multi

cam, oh, sorry, the single cam,
like family, modern, family 101,

documentary, yeah, that kind of
got more popular.

But I think that really, really
a sitcom format, and the way it

is, it has to be brought back,
yeah, yeah, because it's just a

classic format, man. You know,

22 minutes, there's trouble. I
mean, Jim and I are huge fans

of, you know, Three's Company.
We talk about Three's Company

all the time.

My Uncle Pete did the sound on
Pete's threes, like the boom

operators. Oh, he was, like, one
of the mixing guys in a bag. My

Uncle Pete got my Uncle Pete
Romano, my father's brother. He

came out to California 1949 he
wanted to pioneers of radio and

music. You know, he was an
engineer on when Phil Spectrum

was producing Mac. He was an
engineer with Mac Davis. He's

got gold records on the wall.
Gold records, platinum. Yeah. My

Uncle Pete was a hammer, but he
was a three. He was on Three's

Company. I guess at that time he
might have been doing full doing

Foley, yeah, kicking back. You
know, they keep taking it easy,

but he was the guy that was
cutting it with a razor blade,

yeah? Mac Davis and all of those
cats. I

can't imagine being on that set
with John Ritter being as a such

a physical comedian, and the
tripping and the falling and the

spinning and the over
exaggerated. It's just so

enjoyable.

Yeah, you know, it goes back to
the writing. You know, the King

of Queens are really good
writers, and Seinfeld is good

writers. And it's hard to
develop good writers in today's

world, because not too many
people want to sit in front of a

computer, look at a blank screen
and then take criticism for it.

Yeah. You know, I would think
that Fox was trying something

many years ago, which I played a
role in it, where they would do

plays and see if they could run
into a TV

show. Oh, wow. Like, almost,
like a, like, a farm, yeah,

incubator, incubator, right, you
know. And I think because, you

know, a sitcom is a sitcom, man,
you can't beat that. You know,

when you watch those all time,
classic sitcom, Norman Lear

stuff. I mean, right? Whether
you, no matter how you feel

about Archie Bunker or the
Jeffersons, or go down Happy

Days, or Laverne and Shirley,
King of Queens, Raymond, you

know Ned and Stacy, which Ned
and Stacy was written by Michael

Whitehorn, who is wrote, co
wrote, co created the King of

Queens, and it's one of my
favorite shows. But that sitcom

formula, I don't know why they
got away with it. They got to

get back to it if they want to.
I

hope it comes back. I really do,
because I'm such a fan of it.

Yeah, tell us about Jerry
Stiller, why he's a genius,

classic, old time New York guy,
you know, sounds like a song and

dance man, like,

yeah, you know, he's like, I
think is, you know, is a New

Yorker man, like an old time New
York guy, you know, and his wife

and Mira, she was just a very
interesting person, hardcore New

York person, yeah, you know. And
I don't believe she comes from

an era where being offended
would be acceptable, yeah, oh,

I'm offended. Well, that's
unacceptable. He's part of

comedy. It's just part of life,
too. Life is, you know what I

mean, like, Oh, I'm so offended.
Like, you're offended. Too bad,

you know, it's, oh, I'm sorry I
offended you not, you know.

Like, and she's like, you know,
she comes from that era where no

one is safe and no one should
laugh.

Like, Don it's like, Don
Rickles, he got away with

everything because he spared no
one,

right, right? Spared no one.

But he was also self deprecating
as well. Yes, yeah. So, I mean,

that was the, you know,
everybody could laugh at

themselves back then. Yeah,
yeah. That doesn't

happen. You know, people don't
have thick skin nowadays. You

know, people are offended over
this tiny other thing. And it's

like, it's, it's up to, I guess,
our generation as the elders, to

sing ace. It's like, when Cher
smacks Nicholas Cage in the

face, you know, in Moonstruck.
Snap out of it, yeah. What's

wrong with you? Yeah. Snap out
of it. You know. You know, like,

I mean, as far as anything's
concerned, you everything, like,

You got to be careful that you
might offend somebody. It's

like, No, bro,

it's too bad. I'll be honest. I
think we turned a corner. We're

back. We heading back. It's
society, yeah, I think so we got

that, yeah, because people just
got enough. Is Enough already?

Are we talking?

Did we turn the corner? I think
we did. Okay, good. Well, we

got, according

to the book, we turned the
corner.

Okay, the metal and keep going.
Bring pay phones back.

It'll take about 20. Years,

maybe 20. Hey, man, just think
about the here's the deal. And

just made COVID made me think
about this. Just think about the

amount of germs that are on a
New York City pay phone. People

put that thing up to their ear,
in their mouth, they're touching

all the buttons,

and they were healthy. Oh my
God, when Kramer went and swam

in the Hudson River. And, I
mean, we used to swim in Lake

Candlewood. That thing is just a
puddle. It's, you know,

Candlewood lake up and, you
know, we're familiar with that.

And going up in New York, that
was the first man made lake. It

was a lake, yeah. And they
basically pumped water out of

the Housatonic River into the
Candlewood Valley. They created

a lake. They dammed both ends,
and it's essentially a battery.

But they have recreational
squats pond. Does that ring a

bell? No, really? No. There's a
lot of New Yorkers used to come

up to Candlewood or squats. Pond

was the one that we used to go
hang out.

He was too busy. Welch baseball

music. Watches Lake. Welch Lake,
I think it was called. It was

not too far out from from
Rockland County. Yeah, that's

what happened. I ended up
playing double headers on

Saturday and Sunday, and really,
just like, what was the ante?

And, you know, I mean, it was,
you know, whatever. But, you

know, I still like to throw the
ball around and play baseball,

and, you know, do a little bit
of this and that, and follow the

game a little bit. But, you
know, so,

you know, Larry, like, when I'm
into, like, you know, I'm in the

grocery store and I'm trying to
find the perfect avocado, and I

hear a song I play on it comes
on, it's still, still pretty

fun. You pat yourself on the
back a little bit like I did

that. Man, there's not a lot of
people do that. So you see

yourself on the television show.
You

don't watch myself. No, no, you
don't watch it. No, I hate it.

Yeah. It's one of the reasons
why I didn't want to be on a

Sopranos. Because if I was on a
sopranos, I couldn't watch it.

And I read, you asked to be, we
know, I never approached it.

Man, there was a whole chapter
or two of my life that after the

K of Queens and after the
Kristen Chenoweth show, that had

nothing to do with the
entertainment industry, there

was a lot to go on with my
screenwriting and so on and so

forth like that, but I kind of
started doing other things,

which is, you know, a
conversation for another day.

And, yeah, because of just the
environment of Hollywood in

general, yeah, I don't
necessarily vibe with it at, you

know, 100% I vibe at maybe 50.
And if you don't want to vibe

with it 100% you're kind of not
in the league, you know, right?

So a lot like being in a mob,
you

know, you didn't ever have Lee
Remini coming over and be like,

Hey, have you heard of
Scientology?

Yes, she definitely brought that
up a

few for reals, yeah. She
certainly changed her tune on

it. She

changed her tune on it, yeah,
for whatever reasons it may be,

you know. And you know, Patton
Oswalt is an atheist, and Lee is

a Scientologist. So that was the
but that never became a problem

with me on the set. I'm always a
person that you know, you

believe what you want to
believe. Just don't, you know,

don't try and jam something down
my, you know, throat, you know

what? I mean. Yeah, whatever,
bro, I don't care. Yeah,

Oswald, though he's, he's, uh,
he's a genius, real smart,

seemingly, like I've seen him
on, like, game shows, yeah, in

jeopardy. He knows all the
words, yeah. Apparently knows

Yeah. Seems like, it seems

like maybe they give you a study
book. If you're gonna go on

those, those shows, they're
gonna be like, here it is. It's

this thing. Like, it can ask you
any of these things, you know,

and it's up to you, as you know,
to put in your bathroom time

and, like, you know, study the
book, yeah? But so, okay, so

this is so fun to hear. Let's,
let's talk. Maybe pull up the

trailer to Saturday in the park.
Yeah. And the music to Saturday

in the park is a collection of
kind of, like, rock inspired

remakes, like, hey, let's do
something in the spirit of like

this. You know, this ace freely
song from aces solo record. And

then there's some, what I would
call take a drum set and throw

him down a staircase, kind of my
wild improvisations. It was

basically improvisational drum
set that was used to create like

energy from scene to scene,
right? Am I right saying that,

right? So that's what the score
consists of, right? And this is

the trailer that is going to
promote the movie that is coming

out this year, give everybody a
taste of the movie. Yeah, here

we go. Yeah.

1986 New York City. Oh 5050.

Fuck the five. Oh, I'm telling
you, may catch is on the news.

He's come down on all this
graffiti,

rock and roll, hip hop. Y'all
know these guys beat my fucking

meat. B murder, dirty cops. John
Gotti. The mob runs everything.

John Gotti runs everything. And
neighborhood friends for life.

Speaking about his shame in a
waste, Where's your friend?

Oh, fuck Angelo. Stop him. He's
got my money. What's he talking

about? He's full of shit. That
guy. Well, look who it is,

Manhattan, Danny. Stop you

and your friend. Mikey, playing
at double music all the time.

You're not kids don't walk. It's
not devil music. The name of the

band is the devil maniacs. It's
devil music.

It was one night in the time of
their lives, a hell of a

drummer, you wouldn't wake it
right up there with the best we

can fucking make it me and you
and never let nothing stand in

the way of your dreams when the
past will collide with

the future. Small bed man and
Larry Davis, cops gonna wrap

them down so they tried to kill

him. The kids selling drugs.

That looks like we ran out of
internet. Hold on.

Hey, it's exciting, though. And
here's another crazy, small

world. Is that the reason that
you and I know each other,

Larry, is because we have a
mutual friend, Michael,

goodnight, who's a he's a
musician and a film editor in

Los Angeles. He does a lot of,
you know, trailers and promos

and epks, and just like, you
know, high level stuff, he's a

fantastic editor. And over the
years, he has edited reels for

me and my friends. And then I
found out he was a musician.

Next thing I know, he's got this
project called Warlords of Mars,

which is basically him playing
all the instruments. And then he

has a neighbor next door that's
this crazy, like boa Zappa type

poet. And the guy writes no
lyrics. He just takes Michael's

tracks and just starts riffing
on these things, and it's pretty

brilliant. Yeah, so Michael,
Michael and I trade. He'll be

like, I'll be like, Hey, man,
could you put my new

motivational speaking reel
together for me? It would

usually cost this amount of
money. And then I go and I'll

play 1212, drum tracks. So yeah,
so I think I probably had on

recorded like 20 tracks for him.
Really good music too. Yeah,

Mike, he's just some stuff
together

too. Definitely, we definitely
got down, man.

He's a, he's a product of of
living in the heart of show

business for decades. Just a
nice guy and super smart. What's

up? Michael,

yeah, no, like you said, right,
exactly. He's a he's Orange

County Hollywood guy, and he's,
like, knows all this one and

knows that one knows all the
names, like, I know baseball. He

knows each actor's name. He
knows what movies this is from,

what that's from, so on and so
forth. So it's a good

combination. And, yeah, when I
first brought it up to him, I

says, Hey, man, the movie is
about a drummer and a guitar

player, and the lead character
is a drummer. So why don't we

get a drummer to you know? And
initially somebody said for me

to play. I'm like, nah, nah,
nah, nah. And it's like, oh,

let's try rich Redmond. And I
think he pulled I'm like, well,

who's that guy? He's like, he
pulls up a video of you playing

with slash Yeah, with slash
Yeah, and Leanne rimes on

background, and

Winona Ryder and Paul Rogers.
Yeah, it was sorry. What did I

say? Why not a writer? Oh yeah.
Well, you know,

yeah, there you go. Oh yeah. I
don't know if she sings back up,

but yeah, they were hammering.
I'm like, what this guy, you

know, this guy? He's like, Yeah,
like, all right.

Top guy too, right, yeah. And
the

next thing I know, I got Larry
Romano on the phone. Hey, rich.

Larry Roman I'm like the guy
from the King of Queens, yeah.

And next thing you know, we're
in the same room together. We're

doing the thing. So it's all
these amazing, you know, small

worlds, human relationships, a
really, really cool thing. So

I'm excited for the film for
you, because I know that it

started as an idea. It became a
script. You put it up in New

York. You put it up in Los
Angeles, you've filmed it. You

put your heart and sweat into
it. Everybody look it up. You

can look it up on IMDb and just
kind of watch, you know, Larry

and I socials, and we'll let you
know when the film comes out.

Yeah, definitely keep a keep an
eye out, because we're doing it

independently. We spoke about
the, you know, how things have

changed in the business where,
you know, used to cut a record,

you sell records, you sell CDs,
you sell cassettes, and, you

know, airplay and you can make a
living. And same thing with

movies and social media and
streaming has changed all of

that. There is some upsides to
it. But as far as the movie is

concerned, we, you know, we're
going to hold private

screenings. If anybody wants to
have a private screening of the

movie. They get a theater
that's, we could do something

like, yeah, you know, we're
doing our own marketing, our own

distribution. I'd

love to see it put up at the
Franklin theater. I think that

would be perfect. It's a
perfect, you know, like when the

the wrecking crew had that film
about, you know, the the

Wrecking Crew in Los Angeles,
they, they premiered the film

there, and it was nice. It's
perfect size for events. And,

you know, a little bit of the
press can come out, and some

cute little downtown Franklin
that might be, you know, that

might be a thing. And, and, God,
in Los Angeles, where we could

do it somewhere, I know, a small
little theater there somewhere

on Santa Monica or something,
you

know, very big movie. Well,
yeah, it's

interesting Los Angeles has
changed very much for the not

good, you know, yeah, it hasn't.
It's not a place where, you

know, Neil Diamond said, LA is
fine. The sun shines all the

time. LA is about to rent, being
low. So you could be an artist,

you know, and you could, you
know, hang in there. And we

talked about this last time
we're together is that, you

know, New York is, New York is
hanging in there. I could say,

you know, Los Angeles is, is not
doing very well. Yeah, was the

last time you were out there.
I've been out there three times

this year. So I was out there
just for June 7, and so when I

was out there last month. And,
you know, it's just not a place

where it's not what it was.

It is not affordable for an
upcoming artist, that's

not affordable and, you know,
and is something that goes with

that grind, that creates that
creativity, you know, you know.

So, you know, it's just
collective mindset, yeah, and

I've. Find that St Louis has a
much better environment for

artists. You know, much better
environment. Yeah, much better

environment. Because you're not
to worry about this high

overhead. And 475, $5 for a
gallon of gas, and you got to

drive everywhere. You know,
we're looking at reasonable

overhead. Is there a lot of
gentrification going on in St

Louis as well, I hope not. Is
there? Is there? A lot of,

are there.

I live on a hill, and it's, you
know, it was, it was originally

called day go Hill, which is a
derogatory name for Italians,

which they really don't bother
me at all. Guinea and wop does

Yes, but they go, kind of sounds
cool, but yes. And, you know,

there is some benefits to, you
know, but there are places where

you could really, you know,
buckle down if you're an artist.

One thing for sure, though,
still in New York and Los

Angeles, well, Los Angeles, if
somebody got a gig in LA they're

showing up. If somebody has an
opportunity in Los Angeles,

they're showing up sometimes, I
think in St Louis, my

experiences is that somebody has
a chance to do something, they

might blow it off, yeah, you
know, because they don't

recognize the actual opportunity
that's there. You know, when Los

Angeles, they're starving for
the opportunity in New York,

they're probably, they're
starving more for the

opportunity. They're going to
show up. But we got to bring

back in person auditions, this,
going this, the actors cannot be

continually going on camera for
auditions

seven years, years, right?

Some of the cast of The Office
is from St Louis, Jenna Fisher

and

Phyllis, whoever played

to a lot of times. Jim loves the
office. There's a lot of talent

that's come out of St Louis
already, you know. But

why did you when you left Los
Angeles? Why did you pick St

Louis? Of all the

cities, I didn't really pick it.
Okay, guys kind of picked me in

some way. It's there's a whole
other story of how I ended up

having to leaving Los Angeles
because I got I I'm a cancer

survivor myself, so, you know,
go down to 125 pounds in St

Louis, and Los Angeles is really
kicking my tail. And I had two

German Shepherd dogs that I
didn't want to put into a pound.

So I just kind of got in my
vehicle, and I tried it out

there in Henderson, Nevada, for
a little while. And there's a

whole other story there, where I
had to tip out of there, but

somebody told me that my dogs
could live outside, and I had to

tell her, no, you live outside.
I know Henderson very well.

It's, it's it's nice. I like it
in the wintertime because it's

cool and all of that. But when,
when, when you whatever you want

to say, the woman that you're
living with suddenly tells you

that it's okay for your dogs to
live outside. Where I stand on

that is, it's okay for you to
live outside, because you're not

putting my dogs outside. So next
thing I know, I'm packing up my

truck and I'm, that's my country
western song, got my dogs and

mctuck, and it's, I couldn't
head west again. I headed east,

yeah. And I ended up, you know,
hitting St Louis. I ended up

coming down to Nashville,
checking it out a little bit,

which to tell you, man, I got
into Nashville and I tasted that

traffic, and I'm like, No bueno,
man, I'm not doing this was in

2018 oh, really, yeah, it's much
worse. Now

the entire state of California
is moving here. I

mean, I just was another thing
too, right? And then, you know,

you go up to St Louis, where
everything is 12 minutes away.

Hey,

wait, there's St Louis. They got
some barbecue.

They got some Yeah, okay, the
city got pretty little women,

and so to St Louis. Yeah, some,
yeah, single and mingle, yeah.

Just got out of a nice
relationship that really was not

didn't end the way I wanted it
to, but I wrote a couple songs

about it. So there you go. What
you got? You got some walking

papers that you could turn into
some creative man. I couldn't be

any happier, right now, that's
for sure.

You have the attack like the
Italian draw, the Taylor

Sheridan shows like Tulsa King
that have come out. It's a

sliced alone production, right?
Yeah, any interest in, you know?

Hey, you've worked with them
before. I mean, sure, bring a

ding. Ding. Hey, you

know, if they want to put me in
a room with a cast in there,

right?

I mean, we'll cut through all
the red tape of casting

directors and go in the back
door.

Well, you know, she said, you
know, it could, who knows what

happens, you know. I mean, who
knows how it happens? I'm here,

um, listen, if there's a good
part and I'm, you know, and it's

a good, you know, there's, like,
if there's a good part and

there's good people involved, if
I could show up and, you know,

I'm able to do it, I would. He's
got interested. But rock and

roll, really music, you know,
that's my thing, man, yeah,

yeah. He

seems like that. The Taylor
Sheridan universe seems to have

a lot of a certain kind of bent
to it. You know what? I mean,

there's a land man, land man as
well. A great show, yeah, you

know, in the Tulsa King Courtney
and I have really been enjoying

watching it. You got Frank
Grillo, who's now in it, yeah?

James Russo got in there too. I
really. Yeah. I mean, sure, man,

I look, I got a screenplay that
Sylvester Stallone, if I, if he

was to be in it, I would love to
direct a minute and it's, it's

something that I was working on.
One director that was attached

to it for a while was the
director who directed Rocky and

Karate Kid, John G avidson,
yeah. So I would love to work

with Sylvester Stallone in that
capacity, directing him, because

it's the role of

it's a role that he would really
do well. And, yeah,

yeah, he seems like a really
nice guy. It was nice to me.

Yeah, you know, I met his
brother,

you know? Oh, yeah, Frank, yeah.
He's a musician,

but I got you some stories. But,
I mean, we have Frank. I mean,

God, he wrote the music for a
lot of the films, yeah, you

know. And that's him harmonizing
at the trash can with the fire

in the alley. They're doing the
thing right, yeah. What other

movie

Roadhouse too, wasn't he

was the one with Mickey ROG
Barfly. Barfly, yeah, Mickey

plays Bukowski.

It was another movie that he was
in, though, Frank Stallone that

I we just watched it. Gosh, but
he was, I worked in radio in Las

Vegas for four years, and we
used to have a whole bunch of

people coming through the
stations at the time, and he

came in, I'm like, looking at,
you know, I was getting in

there, putting my stuff down.
All the morning shows are doing

their thing, and you never know
who you run into at this at

these stations. So he's just
kind of following me around. And

I go to get my coffee. And he's
like, Hey, can I get some

coffee? I'm like, yeah, come on,
you know, what do you you know,

what station you on? He's like,
I'm going to be on ksfn and

kluc. I'm like, oh, you know,
what do you do? He's like, Oh,

I'm an actor and a musician. I'm
like, Cool. What have you know,

what have you been? She's like,
Oh, my name is Frank Stallone.

I'm like, oh, that's how I know
you.

Hey, great guy. Totally cool.
You got Pacino, you got Deb, you

got pen, you got me. So these
guys, plus all have different

styles of working, styles of
preparing any any fun stories or

insights for the actors out
there.

Well, Al Pacino didn't say much
to me on the set, but that's

because the two characters were
like he was. He was my father

and he didn't like me very much,
you know, but then Johnny Depp

and I, we got along very well.
He gave me the CD to his music

as a band called P really good
stuff. Yeah. So that was John.

Now he's in the Hollywood
Vampires. There. He goes crazy

with Alice Cooper, right? Crazy.
And

he got to play with Jeff Beck,
right? So, like, Come on, let's

be real. And I was still on, was
just great to work with. For me,

yeah, it was really cool to work
with. Madonna. Was really great

to work with. Yeah, so Kristen
channel with, there was some

really fun people to work with.
Without a doubt. I didn't have

any scenes with Sean Penn, but
we were in the jungles of

Australia for five months, so I
had a lot of start a lot of

stories on set for five months
when a world war two movie,

yeah, sweat and humidity, you
know, had to get a bunch of

shots, I bet. Well, yeah,
malaria, well, yeah, none of

that stuff, man. But, you know,
they gave us the heads up not to

swim in the ocean by the
estuaries, because the

crocodiles go out into the ocean
to the sea. We're by the Coral

Sea. And you know about some
kind of bird you could head

monk, you and kill you, yeah, a
bunch of spiders and snakes and

scorpions, yeah. And they got,
but they got some people out

there, really cool people, and
I've still remained in contact

with a lot of them. So that was,
that was just a great

experience. And, you know, and
it was a great experience. I can

have a, you know, that's
something. And we didn't get to

work with Sean Penn, but I got
to hear a lot of stories.

Definitely, a lot of stories.
Amazing. Yeah, yeah, man. And

so St Louis, since 2018

Yeah, 2019 19, yeah. There you
go. And then, you know, of

course, COVID hit, and all that
stuff. Kind of slowed stuff down

a little bit, yeah, and then
still getting over, you know,

injuries and stuff like that,
and then, but it all, it always

comes back to what's in your in
your mind all the time, and it's

always going to be music,
really, for me. I mean, movies

are fun, definitely, without a
doubt, TV sitcoms are fun. You

know? I know writing one is a
chore. Writing a movie is less

of a chore, you know. And but
when you get in that room with a

bunch of cats and you got the
drums and the guitar going and

the bass going, and it's like,
it's

terribly exciting, yeah, it's
still, it's just never gets old,

not for me, you know, it
doesn't. And I can't say movies

or TV or movies got all for me,
but I'm just saying when I wake

up in the morning or when I go
to bed at night, it's always a

rhythm or something to that
effect. Right now, where I live,

I got a drum set in my living
room, which I hadn't had since I

was, you know, I never had a
drum set in my living well, I

guess I did at one point in
time, you know, St Louis, you

got a house you get to open up,
yeah, that's the other thing,

right? I got it. I got a spot,
right? Like, I talked to good

night about that too. It's like,
you know, because we've written

a couple songs together, yeah,
where I would put a drum track

down in St Louis, and then blah,
blah, blah. But like, if he was

in St Louis, all you got to do
is come to the house, plug in

the bass. We got to re.
Recorder. I got 12 track digital

recorder we could just create.
Yeah, we're in Los Angeles, you

know, he's got a cool apartment.
But then if we wanted to do the

live drums, we got to go to amp,
gotta go to amp, gotta go to

amp. Which amp is great, yeah?
Like 75 bucks an hour. Well,

yeah, you know, they could get
by for a little less, but still,

right? Exactly, you know, by the
time you end up with all of that

stuff. And, you know, so but
being an independent artist in

today's world, there's a
definitely a lot of Vantage to

it, like he says, we could have
a showing of the movie with his

wizard theater down here, the
Franklin the Franklin theater.

You got the Tivoli up in the
high point up in St Louis. We

got here and there. And just let
it go. And you know, the people

that are in the audience right
now, if they want to really see

some new stuff out there and and
keep it alive. And

what about the festivals? How do
you could you get it into the

Telluride and the Venice and the

I've been through the festivals
with a movie as a producer,

yeah? And, you know, my honest
opinion on festivals is that

bogus, man,

is it like some serious politics
for winning as bogus,

interesting. They have agendas,
you know, all of this stuff,

when the bigger ones probably
have more agendas where they're

trying to push like a social
whatever, which, you know, they

trying to make it that it's
supposed to be art imitates

life, but that what they're
trying to do is they're supposed

to have, they're trying to have
life imitate art. And you can't

do that, man, you know. And
it's, they're doing it, but it's

failing. You know, the they
might make these big tent hole,

tent hole, tent hole, tent pole
movies, right? But like, at the

end of the day, it's, there's,
they don't. It's like, what do

you watching some guy flying
around in pantyhose, make him

believe he's a spider, or make
him believe. Like, I mean, there

are people that love this stuff,
but like, for me, like, I don't

want to give two hours of my
life, where, what do I get out

of watching a guy making believe
he's a spider? Spider? Man,

yeah. Well, whoever, spider
super, this guy, that. Man,

you're

not a big fan of the Marvel
movies or anything. Oh,

no, because, I mean, like I
said, people that are, God bless

it. It's all well and good, but
I don't want to give I watched,

you know, the Pope, McCarthy
village. I watched rocky I

watched the godfather. I
watched, you know, for unlawful

carnal not carnal knowledge. Was
like you watch these movies from

Bangor, watch Woody, Allen
movies, when you come out of it.

You know, not only did you have
some laughs or did you enjoy the

story, but you come out of it
like a little bit, like with a

bit of life that might enhance
your

life. Woody Allen can write.
He's great, great clarinet,

clarinet player too, yeah. And I
just had these guys. These guys

are from the Midwest. They never
really experienced Woody. And,

you know, I put the Woody Allen
movie on for them. I think it

was Danny Hall. No, I put Hannah
and Her Sisters on. Ah, okay,

see, Could you, could you
imagine I'm watching Hannah and

Her Sisters, and I just watching
the whole thing play out. And

these guys started watching it,
too. Yeah, you know, because

they start going, Wow, they draw
you in, because it's real life,

real it's real human beings.
Yes, you know, that's

interesting. So you know when
part of the plot at towards the

end of Saturday in the park is,
is when you know the two

characters are trying to decide,
what are we going to do? We got

to get out of here. We got to go
try to make it. We're not

getting any younger. And they
mentioned, oh my god, David Lee

Roth just quit Van Halen. He put
his own band together with this

guy named Billy Sheehan and Greg
Bissonette on the drums. Next

thing I know, we sent the
trailer to Greg. Greg is so

happy to be named. Dropped in
the movie. Billy is happy to be

named the movie we went and we
broke bread with Billy over at

brick tops, yes, in Cool
Springs, yeah. So they're so

happy. But,

you know, I'm so happy. They're
happy. That was a big part of my

life. And we would Mike nickel
from Germany, yep, my bro from

Germany, which was I wanted,
that's great. Billy picked up

the tab. Thank you, Bill.
Thanks. How's it going? And I

saw Greg Bissonette in Los
Angeles. He actually remembered

a whole bunch of lines from the
movie, and then he bought me.

Then I said, I was like, Wow,
where did you guys go? Forgot

the name of the place, but it
was in Westlake Village, Los

Angeles, and you know, he's on
tour with Ringo now, yeah, but

you know, that's that time.
Okay, so 1984 the album came

out. Right then 85 Dave came out
with crazy from the heat, which

was an EP going crazy from the
heat. California Girls,

just a gigolo and TV

and I always love Van Halen,
like, I tell you, Danny Spitz

came to my house with Anthony
Amendola back in, I guess, 78

and we they bring this their
amplifiers, and I got the drum

set, and they're like, Did you
ever hear this band called Van

Halen? But back then, like you
listen to a song on the radio if

you didn't stay in the car until
they came and told you who the

band was. So I was like, Nah, I
never heard of Van Halen. And

they started ripping up any
talking about love. I was like,

Oh, I know these guys, you know.
And then then I had taken a trip

to California to see my Uncle
Pete with the gold records on

the wall, and I met cousins that
I didn't know I had. And it was

like the California thing, man,
like, whoa, wow. Like, couldn't

wait till they come back. Like,
yeah, like, you know, we're from

New York. Like, oh, you're from
New York. That's really cool.

Like, really do you're from
California. That's like, really

cool too. Like, because that's
where Eddie and Dave and Alex

and Michael Anthony come from.
So now, when they go through

that breakup, I was like, man,
it's like, my parents are

getting divorced. I was broken
up. Like, man, what that? What's

that about, you know, that found
its way into the film. Found the

ways into the film, because
that's a transition, too. And

then, you know, so,

Larry, were you there on the
Sunset Strip for the Sunset

Strip? Golden Era?

Yeah, many nights. 8485 80 No,
no. Came a little later, a

little later. 86 a little bit so
Guns and Roses, yeah, like

little bit of them, right?
Exactly. Um, yeah, it was

happening, and it was happening
up until the 90s, right? Whiskey

Viper. You go to the rainbow
late night, you run into Ron

Jeremy. He's playing the Pac Man
Machine. You get a slice. You

end up in the red leather seats.
And you never know who you're

gonna end up in a seat with at
the red leather seat with,

yeah, uh, LA, was Grace. Did you

read their book? No brothers.
Alex put it out. It's actually

right behind you there the
shelf. Yeah, that's one. Next

one. Basically, it's a great
book, yeah, and he I actually

listened to it. Alex read it,
okay, and it's a really

interesting take on it goes
right on up to the point where

they make 1984 he does not give
any attention to Sammy Hagar,

yeah,

it was, you know, they came up
with some good songs. They

definitely got some good songs.
But after you was Van Halen, was

David Lee Roth, there's no doubt
about it. And then, you know,

obviously I was broken up over
this and the fella, this fella

that he was actually a catcher
on a baseball team that I was

playing with the Scarsdale
Redskins at the time, guy,

vodka. And I'm like, Oh, man. I
was all, he's, no wait, man,

bro, David Lee Rock, got Billy
Sheehan on base. Why? Well, like

a super band, yeah. Oh, he's got
Stevie VI and great. I'm like,

really? And then I went and got
that first eat them and smile

out like, Oh, wow. These guys
are happening. So they made

their way into the script
because they were a big part of,

like, helping me getting over
Van Halen breaking up that eat

them and smile album was just
off the charts. Man. That was

good one right at the next and
then when I loved it, right? And

then I went to go see him live,
they were like, Whoa. You know

Greg Bissonette wasn't he's done
some acting himself. He's Winnie

the Pooh. He's Winnie the Pooh.
Did you

know that voice act? So Greg
didn't tell you when you broke

bread. So, so Greg has been the
voice of Winnie the Pooh for

like, a decade, really, yeah,
because he's got that gravelly

voice. He's got a gargling with
your razor blade kind of

voice. It's like a raspy voice,
like listening to him, it makes

you want to catch your breath,
yeah? Because you feel like he's

running out of hand

to watch it now. Well, you know
what's really cool about him?

He's from Detroit, yeah, and
Detroit, he was telling me his

stories about living in Detroit,
you know. And, you know, in the

movie, we didn't know, because,
you know, there's no social

media at that time, we thought
he was a California guy. So they

go commission. That's from
California, but they do say

something by Detroit. Yeah, you
know, New York is like Detroit.

It's cold, which means that you
spend your your winter time,

either in the basement or the
garage, playing music. It's like

Detroit, man. But yeah, those
guys really, they, they

definitely smooth it out. A lot
of the pain of Van Halen

breaking up. What a cool thing.
Well,

maybe Greg or Billy will get the
trailer or will let no Stevie VI

that he's also name dropped in
the movie. Only way I know how

to get to him is that I believe
he's really good friends with

Dina Carter, and I know Dena
Carter, but I think Greg would

be a faster track to get to
Stevie and let him know that,

you know, he's name dropped in
the movie. I'm sure he'd get a

kick out of he seems like a
super nice guy. Okay, man. So, I

mean, what a, what a, what a
history, a history in music and

film. The the movie is coming
out this year. You got this

song, God bless America. What
are you gonna do with that? Man,

what you guys

gonna do? You know, I just let
it ride, you know, man, people

want to hear it. And it takes,
you know, it's about, you know,

we did some, we did one version
with, you know, some of the

original lyrics, and added third
verse, And then I did another

version where I just put all my
lyrics to it, because it's

America 2025, we're living in.
So, you know, what happens with

it nowadays? You know, if I, if
we had a record label and a

publicist, would be on every
radio station in America

tomorrow, right?

But nowadays, the people that
need to find it will find it.

You kind of just, you know, you
throw it against the wall and it

goes into your body of work.
It's really great. It was so

cool to be involved with it.
Brother, appreciate

you. Yeah, and you really pulled
it together, because it's like,

you know, once those drums are
clicking, man, just jamming on

it. You know, the drums are
slamming, and then it just goes

from there. Yeah, in the pocket.
Way to go. Keep it simple, yeah.

Hey, Larry, what is, what's your
favorite color?

Geez, I think I'm gonna go blue.
Okay,

okay, we get a lot of blue. I
want to think blue or black. I.

Favorite

drink, favorite drink, yeah,
well, it depends what day or

month or what you know, that
stuff is, you know, I mean, as a

coffee, no drink, coffee. I'm
off coffee for quite some time.

I was, I was, I was for quite
some time, one of my favorite

drinks was water with barley,
hops and yeast. Yeah, that was a

favorite one. Then I took a
little break off of that, but

that's coming back into the
fold. Well,

when I met you a year ago, you
were off the yeast

off. I was off. I go back and
forth between drinking beer and

not drinking beer and standing
by. But you know, a nice

pineapple juice, freshly
squeezed vacation drink, orange

juice, freshly squeezed. You
know what? I mean? Something

like that. Some nice juice.
Green tea, nice. I mean, I used

to really love coffee, but I
love it too much, me too. Yeah,

I'm gonna have another one after
this. I know. See, I'd be right

there with you, like, oh, let's
get a pack, pack of Marlboro

reds and a whole pot of coffee.
Yeah, that was high school. See,

that. Yeah,

my preference was camels. No
filters. No, we had filters, but

it was camel wines,

okay, camel wise, yeah, yeah,
man, yeah, you know. I mean, you

know, you go to Europe and
people smoke cigarettes, and I

don't have a problem with it. I
have no problem whatsoever. They

are still puffing away over
there. Yeah, I have no problem

with secondhand smoke.

Yeah, it's actually kind of
endearing, because once you're a

smoker and you smell it, it's,

Oh, that smells. Yeah, right, it
does.

It just makes me think I am in a
dive bar, and I love this

jukebox, and I love these people
that I'm with and but, um, you

don't get that, that rustic,
musty smell in the bars anymore,

like you used to no except when
we went and watched a band at

the Elks Lodge up in like,
Gallatin, they all smoked, and

they had the smoke eaters. It's
like, oh, this is how a bar used

to as a place. St Peter's, like
that too. Salvatore's, you could

smoke in there.

So how do they get around it in
Gallatin? Because

that's part of Elks Lodge. I
mean, it's like they write the

wrong rules. Yeah? Okay, gotcha,

yeah, that's another thing about
too, about God bless America.

Like, you know, we got to start
re, you know, writing our own

rules again, man, you know,
doing unhealthy things, yeah?

Like these, I mean, these whole
universal rules, you know, like,

Yeah, I'm not, I'm totally not
down with the fast food stuff,

because that's like, whatever,
like,

our food supply has been
poisoned.

So there are you probably really
with the green tea, yeah, and

the no fast food and all that.
That probably became part of

your, your modus operandi when
you were treating your kid. We

all

remember when McDonald's before
that, too, though, yeah,

McDonald's tasted a lot
different. Yeah, kids,

yeah, yeah. It was, like, fresh
ingredients. It was awesome.

Yeah, it

was actually not bad.

Yeah. In Europe too, I was in
Germany for a month, and you go

to McDonald's and it's like,
wow, I want to go again. Yeah?

It says, but now it's like, a
real meal. Yeah, we Well, I

think that's another thing we're
getting on the right track. Of

people are realizing how much
poison that we actually eat. We

stopped in like, Marion,
Illinois yesterday, get

something to eat. And I'm
thinking, like, here we are in

the middle of all this farmland,
and all all the food sources

are, you know, processed food,
yeah, right, genetically

modified, you know. And, you
know, that's one thing we can't

let happen to our music and our
art, yeah, you know, we kind of

stay, you got to stay with, you
know, doing our thing. Man, no

computers, and just get out
there and, you know, and bring

back garage bands. Yeah,

there's one, there's some food
guy that I don't mind, and that

is peanut. M, M's, I don't care
what they're doing. I love it. I

got, I got. That's my treat, you
know, like one once a month or

whatever, I'll have my peanut.
M, M's, you know, gotta try to

keep it off the bus. That's,
that's the deal once

for me. It's apparently, lately,
the dove bar ice cream. Oh yeah,

that's good stuff.

Yeah, for me, it's been wayward
woman lately. Yeah, this way

would mean women with bow legged
women. No, I don't know about

that, just I love them. Yeah,
wayward women,

you're so like Richie, your
character definition. Richie was

a ladies man. You know, he was
single, he was single, he was a

ladies man. Hey, if I'm

a ladies man, but maybe you know
man, but

again, gonna getting back to the
movies and everything like that.

What were we talked about? It
yesterday? Jaws. 50th

anniversary this month.

Keep me out of the ocean. I
always love to go on the ocean.

Until I saw jaws.

Did it spark any sort of an
acting thing for you? I mean,

especially the US. You

know, you guys studied the
screenplay for it, because it's

a great screenplay, but it
really, JAWS just kept me out of

the ocean. Man, it's like, I'm
not, I'm not down with the

ocean. Man, God,

that movie now we are guests,
yeah, we are guests their

house. Yeah, no, I'm not down
with that. You know, that's what

we share,

that snake, Scorpion, spiders
and sharks, snakes, scorpions

and spiders. Those are the four
S's, yeah, no, yeah, that's for

sure.

Another s in there too.

When they get to the sharks, and
like the dangerous fish get to

the Hudson River, they probably
turn around and.

Well, now it's clean. So
interestingly enough, I found

out this last year when Robert F
Kennedy was integral in cleaning

up the Hudson River. When I was
a kid growing up in Rockland

County, the Hudson River was
polluted. It was dead. You

couldn't go nowhere near it. But
he started something like the

River Keeper. He actually got
the corporations to clean it up,

and it's pretty clean right now.
You'll see dolphins in there.

You'll see, yeah, like the
waterways have cleaned up, and

there's some other stuff going
on, like, where I was in Queens,

I was living in college point
for a little while, where they

get oysters, and they put the
incubate the oysters, and they

put river oyster beds around the
in the around the shoreline, and

they clean the water. And the
waters looks, you can see the

bottom in the Long Island Sound,
it's really right in Queens, you

know, it's

crazy for me. I actually did a
job down, I want to say around

Mount Vernon, probably more
towards where the Whitestone is,

and heading back up. I'm like,
you know, I got a half an hour

to kill. I've never been to city
Island. It's like a resort,

yeah, it's interesting. It's a
whole different world. You ever

been to city Island? Bronx,

New York, is an island. There's
a movie called City Yeah, there

is,

yeah, but it's a really, like a
detachment from that whole area.

Yeah, it's a village in the
Bronx, right? Bronx is an

interesting place. I love it. I
love it still. And each borough

is different. Oh, sure is, yeah,
each borough is different. But

that TV show that I did with
Maloney, we shot in

Jamaica Queens at a in a real
prison. There is a part of the

prison that they that is still
functioning, and then a couple

of areas of the prison that they
use to shoot television shows

like, I'm sure, like NYPD and
CSI and all the all the lettered

shows, yeah, yeah. It's pretty
crazy. The rights of passage

shows the rights of walking,
walking down the hall, taking up

the entire hallway, shows, yeah,

but it shall go to cool.

Larry, what? What final question
are your favorite? So you had

your favorite, favorite food.
Favorite food? Which?

Fair Food? I mean, you know,
lately, I've been just, you

know, eating spinach salads with
garlic and, you know, I lay off

the tomatoes for a while with
spinach, sounds with garlic

cloves and olive oil. Chicken
like that. Yeah, chickens, okay.

I like steak. I like hamburgers,
if I get obviously a good pizza

pie, you know, but I run the
gamut,

man. Okay, so St Louis, did you
find a good pizza place? I mean,

I can't say no, they obviously
is different than New York.

There's the Pie Guy on
Manchester. They're close to New

York. And Pizza de gloria is on
the hill, and they make their

own kind of pie or fresh
ingredients. That's a really

good spot. But, you know, coming
from New York to New York, New

Jersey, Long Island. I mean,
it's a different thing that

you're used to. Man, yeah, it's

Jim McCarthy. I, I'm a loose New
Yorker, because we grew up on

the border. But, you know, and
even Connecticut, where we were,

Connecticut got a pizza too, in
New Haven, yeah, but we were, we

had the, we were the
beneficiaries of Manhattan, you

know, the Bronx, that kind of
area of a town, good Italian,

yeah, you could throw a rock and
get

great. Yeah, that's the other
thing. You know, the food in New

York is, it's, it's tough,
right? Yeah, it's tough to come

anywhere else, yeah, you know,

we went to Manhattan, Cami
saying at

Carnegie Hall. Carnegie Hall.
Carnegie

Hall, yeah, wow. How do you get
to Carnegie Hall? Practice?

She couldn't, she couldn't care
less, but she, you know, we

spent a couple days in
Manhattan, and it's like all we

did was eat Italian food, just
to get it, just to fill

our quota. Little Italy so fun.
You got to go to Eataly. Italy

is fantastic. Yeah, I enjoy

Italy. Put some weight on you,
man, I know, but it

doesn't do that in Italy, you
can actually lose weight by

eating there.

I never been to Italy. How is
it? We've

never been there because,
because I know that my people

are from Napoli, Naples,

my father's family's from
Naples. Gotta get there. Yeah,

yeah. I got this opportunity to
get citizenship with port Italy.

Port Italy, and I'm really
working with them to get

citizenship. But yeah, I mean, I
would be fun going to Italy. I'm

sure that they would know me
from the Stallone and Pacino

movies. Yeah, Germany, the King
of Queens, is really big out

there. But who knows. I mean,
right now, you know, lately,

I've been traveling around
America. Here, St Louis,

Nashville, Los Angeles, New
York, and fill in my quota. God

bless America. God bless
America, right? You know, Larry,

I really appreciate you making
this trip out here, not just the

Spring Hill from Nashville. You
drove five hours from St Louis.

Get your posse here. These guys
doing the thing. Guys, thanks

for for being here, Chris and
mark, and the film is gonna come

out sometime this year, Saturday
in the park. Everyone watch for

that. Everybody look for God
Bless America the track, and

look for Larry and his new
roles. He's got new roles coming

up. Really it's gonna happen. I
feel it now. You got a drum in

front of you. Jim's got a drum.
I'm in front of you. Let's take

this thing out. Style man,

oh, wow, look at this.

So Larry, you start a jam. You
can just kind of put it kind of

between your legs like that.
Just

like, yeah, you

Hi, I'll go four bars. I'm

I am in the house. I

it. Let you guys do here we go,
last

time, first time ever on the
rich Redmond show, three drum

specialists, jamming, McConaughy
style. Larry, thanks

for being here. Man, wanted to
Google one thing about wayward

woman. I want to know what that
actually

that means women who have lost
their way,

word way, the way we word

word. What is the definition
wayward woman generally refers

to a woman who deviate from
societal societal norms or

expectations, often
characterized as rebellious,

independent or unconventional
behavior. The term could be

found in various contexts,
including literature, social

commentary, historical studies
and often nuance. Well, in

reality is I find wayward women
the most interesting women.

That's right, yeah, you say
deviate from norms and

expectations and a bit
rebellious and independent,

yeah, which that's perfect for
you? Larry, yeah, I don't know

about perfect, but it's
definitely like lights my fire.

Yeah, maybe, maybe someday we
will be perfect. That'd be great

to find the perfect one, right?
For sure, as we all search

the perfect, you're funny man,
yeah.

Okay, anyway, with women out
there, just so you know, if

you're deviating from societal
norms and or expectations and

you're rebellious and
independent and unconventional.

Well, Uncle Larry is in the
house. I don't know about Uncle

Larry.

Uncle Larry, that's Larry
McCarthy. Jim McCarthy,

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