The Rich Redmond Show

Unknown: Rich, I am pushing you
to do a comedy set at some

point. He really wants me to go,
telling you we're gonna either

do a Zanies night or we're going
to Atlanta. So Jim, if you want

to hop in the truck, sure we're
doing it, man. Because

guys, you know what you haven't
done yet, some stand up. He

would crush. You know? He would
crush? Yeah, yeah.

This is the rich Redmond show.
Have you

seen Wolfgang Van Halen? Latest
video? The music video? No. It's

like a reimagining of thriller
directed by Robert Rodriguez,

whoa, and it's like zombies in
it, and he's getting attacked

and everything. Have you not
seen this? No came out eight

days ago as of this recording,
and he actually does a

reenactment. I want to say it's
in this video, a reenactment of

his father's iconic table walk
guitar solo from odd for

teacher. Oh yes, that is
Wolfgang. Well, I love Robert

Rodriguez, I know you do. That's
why I'm telling you. I love

zombies. I know you do. That's
why I'm telling you.

Salma Hayek was great in that
movie. You

know, if I knew that about you,
you love horror movies. I love

all

horror movies. This is our
guest, Rob ricotta. He's the

best. He's He's a multi talent.
Jim, I thought that you would

enjoy today, because Rob does so
many things. You know what? I

mean? He's a hyphy, right? Like
you and I are hyphys, like we're

juggling so many balls. It's
like balls. I can't even say

what it's like, because I'll get
canceled. But anyways, you know

today, you know, today's guest
is a drummer. He's also an

actor. He's a voice actor, he's
a model, he's a songwriter. You

know, we've been friends, seems
like a very, very long time, but

we're just kind of looking back
at at our history here. We

originally met because he plays
with a amazing recording artist

on John Jason aldeans label,
John Morgan, and he was playing

with John, just he and John on
our rock and roll cowboy tour in

2022 and he was all done up
every night, just ready to do

the thing. He looked like a
million bucks. And he was doing

like a stand up, kind of like a
cocktail kit kind of a thing.

But instead of, like the the
upward facing kick pedal on the

floor tom and that whole thing,
it was like an SPDs X, and had

all the cool sounds, and he
could change the sounds for each

song, and he had the pedal
going. And it was like hyper

visual. And I was like, Oh, I
can get behind this kid. Who is

this kid, right? And I get to
learn more about him. And then

they come back for the second
iteration of that tour, in 2023

our rock and roll cowboy tour.
But it's electric, and he's got

the full band going. And now I
get to see him, see him play

drums, and learn more about him.
Like, oh, you're a voiceover

guys. Like, Well, man, I was,
you know, I was like, I just was

in LA for five years trying to
get my sag card. I play a lot of

cops and detectives and so, you
know, we, you know, we became

fast friends, and I even
attended this young man's

wedding. Now,

not attended. You were a
groomsmen.

You are so, right. So, like,
here I am. It's like,

you forgot that you would, you
stood up at his wedding. Well,

there was

Yeah, but the thing is, is that
he didn't work me, like, right

John Hall, my drum tech, who
said, can you be the MC, the DJ

and do the toast? And I was
like, Yes. I had, like, cue

cards. I had this huge PA
system. I was doing the thing.

It was good for me, because,
guys, I am going to be a DJ. I

mean, I am going to be DJ.
Redmond, that's that's your

thing. I'm going to charge
$10,000 starting bid is going to

be $10,000 but, I mean, Rob's
from Franklin, North Carolina.

He's known John Morgan for many,
many years. Fantastic drummer,

like I said, multi talent. This
is our new friend, Rob Ricardo.

Thanks for being here, man.

Gosh, what an honor to be here.
Thank you both. Bring that mic

over. A little bit more for you.
Absolutely. That's good. Okay,

great,

you know. And you know, I pride
myself on, you know, this at

this particular chapter of my
life, you know, having the full

package, you know, I want to
have like a you know, I want my

expensive haircut, and I want to
look like I'm ready for the gig

at all times. Jim's like
yesterday, Jim goes, you look

like you're ready to jump on
stage at all times, even if you

go to Publix but, but Rob takes
it to another level, because I

think it's like the modeling
thing. I mean, your beard is

like, you're the Marlboro Man. I
mean, dude, you're so good

looking and so put together that
my own fiance won't use me as a

model. She's using you as she
uses your bride as a model. It

was cool

to see you're a good looking
couple. Bri, oh no, I appreciate

it so much. Yeah, it was cool to
see my bride the other day in

one of her shoots. And honestly,
she wears those T shirts all the

time now, which is great. Yeah,
absolutely

nice green hills, but it's green
hills in the font and the logo

design of Beverly Hills, because
Let's fake it, face it if you're

living in Greg and green hills,
oh yes, you've done

okay. Exclusive pickleball
courts,

cocktails, direct

access to Trader Joe's Nord
sprouts,

no traffic. Oh

yeah, a horrible Hillsborough
road. Hello, yeah. But

everywhere is Hillsborough road,
and now we're in you. We are in

Spring Hill, Tennessee, which
has been a community since the

late 1800s and it was probably
horse and buggy two lane roads,

and still is. There's nowhere to
there's no way to expand the

roads here. We're just going to
be dealing with like LA style

traffic in Spring Hill. But it's
good. I'm loving the

lifestyle. Beautiful. Oh my
gosh, it's beautiful out here.

It's very calm.

We have sidewalks in farmland as
well. Very nice, man. It's just

so cool to you know, we had some
good times and on those tours,

yeah, it was post COVID. Right
after COVID, there was a

few times I know you remember as
well, we'd show up. And there

was still some of the states
that were so highly liked locked

that 99 crew of you guys. That's
a machine show up, and they're

like, What do we do? Do we ask
these people to put mask on? Do

we not and it was kind of funny
watching it all go down, because

we lived this for two, three
years, and then we're like,

well, so this state, we'll see
how this state goes, and then

move on to the next one tomorrow
night. But, yeah, it's

interesting time.

But dude, you're a showman, you
know, everything you do. I mean,

the way you were playing the
SPD, SX, and, you know, now I'm

seeing you in music videos, and
you guys have been doing a lot

more press lately. I saw you.
You guys did a thing on the

Kelly Clarkson show. You were on
that TV show, American song

contest, you know. And you, you
let the hair down, like your

hair is up right now, and this,
yeah, it's kind

of a weird how long is your
hair? And right now you want to

let it down rock and roll,
Sunset Strip, yeah, it's down

here. Yeah, it's down here. It's
kind of, you got, like, the

whole gamut going. It's, I don't
know, man, I think it's half out

of proxy, all our guys. It's
actually one of those things

we're going through as a band
right now. And it's like, we're

about to just call it hair
country or something, because

all our guys somehow just ended
up with with longer hair. It

wasn't by I think it's just
living again. I mean, you guys

know that. What I

mean is that you got the acting
thing, the voice over thing, the

modeling thing, the you have
your hair, which still, which

some of us can't say,

he's not having to dig into the
finasteride just

yet. Well, it's, it's strange.
And I will say, like, do you

play sports, or are you a
professional athlete? No, I

wish. I do love I played soccer
all growing up, and still played

here and there, but we played so
much pickle on tour with these

guys. I don't play pickle loads
of fun, though.

Of course, you don't. They're
too they're too competitive.

These guys, they take all the
fun out of it.

They don't anymore. I heard
though, are they done? Are they

still playing?

Yet to play a game of
pickleball, we'll find out. Have

you ever played a

game? We've been sitting around
for five months waiting to go.

So may 19, we jump into
rehearsals for three days, and

we start our tour on May 22 in
Cincinnati, at the blossom.

Thank god. I can't wait to play
these 24 songs again with my

best friends. Hello. Are you?
Did you ever play pickleball?

Never tried it, buddy? Because
I'm always like, doing my

stretching or my running or
lifting weights or doing Yeah,

I'm more of like a man against
himself, man against nature.

It. Listen, it's like watching
the rocky montage when you do go

out on tour with rich, because
it's true, like you get you're

like, 1130 to the like, right
before lunch kind of thing. He's

soaking, dripping wet out there,
just doing his thing. And he

puts all the younger guys to
shame, because you're like, oh,

man, I just woke up and Rich is
getting after it. And so it kind

of makes you, like, pick
yourself up a bit and be like,

Wow, I better not eat crappy.

Worry about it, because you got
you, got you. No, it's not true,

man, I'm having to but yeah,
yeah, me too. That's, you know,

what Rich I will say it's weird
coming from you to say you're a

showman Rob, because, as we know
like it truthfully, is the

ultimate experience, the
succinctness of you in a studio

and the succinctness of you
live. It's untouchable. So it's

weird to come from one a friend,
but two, a fellow musician, and

go, Hey, you're a showman.
Because I that's like, the most

succinct thing about you as a
player. Oh,

man, I appreciate it. But you're
just totally coming into your

own in your drum career. You've
had this voiceover career for 14

years, you know, which is
amazing, and we'll get into

that. And because I, and because
I, and I thought you'd be an

amazing guest, because you can
do some kibitzing with Jim, you

know, because he's been a radio
does the voice over, all that

kind of stuff. So you guys have
a lot in common. But, you know,

just watching you get your
endorsements together, you know,

your dream symbols. And, hey,
I'm a drum dial artist, and I'm

playing collision sticks. And
you know, you're doing the

thing, you know, and you're I
just because I remember those

days, those years of that, the
first couple of years of being

hungry, and, you know, you're
building something. You're

getting all your allies and your
team together, so exciting.

And you've, man, it's been so
cool. Just the few times as

well, you've said, hey, look
beyond Can I do anything for

you? You need to meet these guys
at innovative or you need to

meet, you know, not just symbol
people, but great people in the

industry that are long standing,
that actually are major quality

in what they do. And now being
able to use some of those things

on records, like little
percussive things, have been so

cool, like, so I appreciate that
as well. And, yeah, I think.

Most of these people that we've
gotten the opportunity to build

relationship with, it's just
that you're like, Man, I hope

you're rounding in 10 years
while I'm doing this or

whatever.

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Now, this artist that you're
playing with, John Morgan, you

guys go way back back to high
school days, so fill us in on

that

history. Our bass player,

not unlike you guys, it was, it
was really cool to see and watch

your relationship with Kurt and
Tully and Jason and understand

that storyline, because it did
mirror a lot of what just

knowing each other musically,
and then knowing each other from

afar and going, man, what does
this look like when we put it

together? Kind of a thing. So
our bass player and John and

myself actually the bass player
and John was a rival high school

to mine, so we grew up playing
sports against each other in the

world where we come from, it's
bluegrass music, and so there's

no drums. No, you have to
washboard it. You know, do you

do the washboard thing? That's
where, believe it or not, I

started on bongos and Congos way
back when. But, yeah, you had

to, like, learn

some risky Skaggs has got some
drums a little bit, you're

right. And

Union Station, sometimes, aside
from mandolin, has like, a

little bit of a shaker or
something,

really fast train beats. But

nowadays it like, back, you
know, when it changed, they

went, it's an indoctrination of
our, you know, to put drums on

bluegrass. So that, at that
time, we were trying to do that.

And I think it was just like,
No, no, don't do that. Yeah, but

yeah, we all were in bluegrass
music of some kind. We played in

different bands and and I knew
of John, and it was just a pass

by in a studio that the engineer
said, You need to stay back and

listen to this guy's voice. So
I'd been writing that day with a

friend. We'd been doing a
session in our small, little

studio, and he said, man, just
stay back. And I heard John sing

for the first time, and it was,
you know, like a movie. It's in

a little vocal booth, comes out
of the vocal booth. And I said,

Man, you know, did you write
that song? Kind of a thing? He

said, Yeah. I said, who'd you
write it with? He said, I just

wrote about lonesome. And I, you
know, I suppose at that moment,

it really was like a magic that
just I went, I'll do I think I'd

do anything for people to be
able to hear that. I'll do

whatever it takes for people to
hear that. And I'm looking at

videos recently, especially him
just having a number one a week

ago. I looked back at the ones
in the studio going like, Man,

I'm so glad that people just
know John Morgan now, yeah, you

know that is enough for me,
almost for people, to kind of

take him as a household name, if
you will.

He's becoming a household name
swiftly. And so did you move to

Nashville first and then say,
Hey, John, you really got

to get here six months? Yeah,
I'd gone to enough writers

rounds like, I'm sure you guys,
you know when you when you move

here, I think it's you. What's
weird about Nashville is, is, I

don't know if you agree with
this or not, but I've found that

Nashville, if you move here, you
have a seat at the table. It's

not, it's not necessarily like
in New York LA, where it's like,

man, you gotta just absolutely
not that you don't have to grind

here. But what I mean is, is
that people go, if you're here,

what's the first question? Do
you live in Nashville? Yeah. And

then it's like, yeah, we can
write if you don't live in

Nashville, nah. I'm good. You
know what? I mean, yeah. Gotta

be here. You gotta be here. And
so seeing enough rounds, there's

less gate gatekeepers here.
Totally, yeah, totally. So yeah,

it

moved here six months. And I
just said, John, whenever you

get the chance. It's, you know,
it's cool to work doing

maintenance or at a tire shop or
whatever, you can do whatever

you want. But I'll tell you, if
you really want to do music, you

got to move where music is. And
so thankfully, took me my word

and and moved

here. Best advice ever. And
then, I mean, he does have just

such an amazing voice. He looks
like a young James Taylor. You

know what I mean, he really
does. He does, and he's had, you

know, since you know, thank God
you can visit him to move to

town. He's earned cuts with John
party, Dustin Lynch, Thomas red,

16 tracks with Jason Aldean.
Maybe it's even more now,

including the number one trouble
with a heartache at the Grammy

nominated, which was Grammy
nominated ACM Single of the

Year, if I didn't love you, with
Carrie Underwood, the current,

our current single whiskey
drink, and you guys are

celebrating a number one with
Jason Aldean. Yeah, friends like

that. Friends like that. Yeah,
amazing. Congratulations, crazy,

crazy. You're in the video. All,

yes, you know. But the best part
is, where it started is you guys

playing on all John's stuff, and
that's exactly what happened

with the first number one. Is
All You guys are on friends like

that. And it's really cool. It's
full circle, because I feel like

Jason, taking a shot on John and
your whole team, taking us under

your wing on tour for two years
in a row, which is unheard of,

in my opinion, in the industry,
to just go and we're not only

taking you one year, we're gonna
believe in you again. You again.

And here's a full band thing. It
just is so right, in my opinion,

to have the story be Hey, by the
way, all the guys that took you

under and and lifted you on
their shoulders are the ones

that got the number the first
number one on that artist. So

it's so cool to hear you first
one. Well,

thank you, and you listening to
your drumming. Let's celebrate

you. You got this amazing
relationship with John going way

back. You know you've earned his
respect. He trusts you, and he

invites the band to play on his
latest record, Carolina blue,

which dropped April 25 was
produced by Brent Anderson. Guy

used to play in his demos, God,
15 years ago, tell us about that

process.

It the ruckus room in town,
which I wasn't familiar with.

How many great records had been
made there, over there in

Berryhill, in Berryhill, and
it's kind of, again, off of, not

the main strip there in Berry
Hill, but it's like up on a

hill. Yep, a very unassuming
place. And, you know, big, wide

door, you Oh, you go through,
but now it's farmland. Studios

is operating out of that
building, and it just has good

juju, if you will. Like, you
walk in and you're like, Man, I

just it feels like a very
comfortable space to make

records. It's one of the last
places like a sound in Portman

town. I think that's got that
mid grade studio feel like it's

obviously high end, but it's
still what I mean is is

accessible to people like us who
are rookies and trying to cut

our teeth in this industry.
Yeah, so it feels like the

engineer is not going to be all
over your butt the whole time

he's working with guys that are
greener. I think it's really so

sweet, if you will, to have
somebody in there who gives you

suggestions, and nobody has an
ego. You're just learning.

You're learning in there. And I,
you know, it's a completely

different experience for me,
being in the studio. I've had

little hints of it, but being in
there and almost living there

for a week, you know, you go in
there and you have a limited

amount of time to do something.
But I think that trying to get

gold, if you have people there
that are constantly saying, Man,

you know, I'd love to bring a
little bit of you, have more of

you on the instrument, rather
than just the parts, yeah, I

felt like that was such a weird
thing to be have the ability to

do.

Yeah, congratulations. I wish I
had known man, you. I mean, all

of a sudden I realized, oh my
god, John's got a full length

record. He uses band. That's
great, because it just does.

It's happening more often
nowadays, but still pretty rare.

It's so easy for, you know, when
there's money at stake and

there's the stakes are so high,
it's like, call the guys, call

the team. You know what? I mean,
the guys that are got their

studio tans every day, because
it does take a little bit more

work sometimes to get a bunch of
guys that don't do it all time

to create the product. But you
had a whole week awesome, and

it's easy to get good catering
in Berryhill, there's a lot of

restaurants in rate,

and also not be that way.

Yeah, Brent Anderson was, was
really great about this as well.

He did a lot of it, being our
kind of first time doing a full

length record in that way. He
did a lot of pre production on

it for us. And so he rounded out
the experience of just going,

Hey, percussion, little loot,
stuff like that. Let's not like,

I'm not gonna have those. Why
don't you play those things too,

and it reminded me of you as
well, because there was so much

of that you listen to Jason's
records over the years where all

that stuff, you're like, No, no.
Like, rich played that that's

not just some random drum loop
that's playing on an spdx, or,

you know, shakers here, or
trying to seven different

tambourines. And you're like, I
think this one will work. That's

the. What? So that was so cool.
He let us do that with symbols,

and we tried different snares.
And

the future is so bright. It's
cool. I mean, that is great.

Congratulations. Thank you.
Thank you. Big, big. You

told me that was, I mean,
honestly, was all coming, man,

yeah, I think it was. I texted
you the other day and I said,

Rich. It's crazy how you kind of
predicted that a bit, but it was

like, man, if you just you told
me, he said, Man, if you just

continue to show up, I really
believe that, especially the

recording bit, is in your
future. Yeah. And it was like,

you know, I didn't expect it to
be now, but it was kind of like

clockwork. I was like, Man, I
guess he was right, you know,

so Well, the thing is, is you're
coachable, you're teachable,

you're affable, you're all the
bulls, you know, yeah, I mean,

it's like, it's, you're just a
likable guy, and and you're a

team player, and so, you know.
And John just seems like a loyal

guy, you know, he's a grounded
dude, you know, which is great.

So, Wow,

isn't that cool, Jim? That's
cool. Super critical. Yeah, man.

Now, when this comes out, Jim
will probably have played his

gig at the city winery. Jim is a
drummer. Get out of here. He

kind of hasn't done it in public
a lot for like, maybe, like, 18

years, but now he joined the
Huey Lewis tribute band, and

they're playing the city winery
on May 28 Yes, and I'll be

there. I'll be I'll have my
flatbread and my wine. I'll be

watching. It'll be great. And
Jim, should I sit up nice and

close, or should I sit way in
the back? I

don't care where you sit.

That's a nice room, by the way,
but I spent a lot of time. I

really

want to look out and see you
just going

like this, taking notes I

can be transcribing. Yeah. Yeah.
You

know you don't just go and play
in a Huey Lewis tribute man, by

the way, you got to, like, know
that he's got it. Like,

yeah, it's true. It's it's given
me a vast appreciation for Bill

Gibson, yeah, who we've had on
the show several months ago.

But, yeah, yeah, he's that guy's
a juggernaut. That's he doesn't

get enough recognition. He
deserves a lot more. You know,

Bill

is a very shucks guy. He's not
the kind of like,

except when we asked him about
the mailbox money, he's like,

yeah, the walks to the mailbox
are always fun.

Well, yeah. I mean, lives in the
Bay Area, and that's not cheap.

Yeah. You know, Carolina blue,
everyone. Check that out,

performed by the band. That's
incredible. And so you guys are

telling me about your recent
tours, two tours for Al Dean,

tours for Ernest, Riley, green,
Nate Smith, Jameson, Rogers,

what's coming up? Kane Brown,
Old Dominion. But we were your

favorite, right?

Undeniable enough to be like,
Rich. Come on, where's the best

at my wedding? But

we also have like, scars, you
know, we had a good time out

there. Oh, my god, yeah. So

much. Your cigars every night,
well, we drink

too much. Yeah? Most nights
enough for rich to go. Is this

gonna give me mouth cancer,
right? 100%

does the tip of your tongue
supposed to touch it a little

bit, because that's what she
said. He would always go, am

I inhaling this? Should I be
inhaling? I'm like, No, you

don't inhale. You don't it's

not a cigarette. But now my
chops are strong. Now we have

the most amazing cigar bar, I
say, in Middle Tennessee, in

Spring Hill. Get out the
mission. You know, tell me about

right there, like, right there.

We may be visiting this.

I'm listening to his baritone in
his voice, yeah, it's very, it's

a clear baritone that's going on
there, very and he sings and

does the whole deal. And right,
of course, he does, yeah, just,

you just miss, I can't believe,
you know, you just got the

professional athletic you gotta,
like, become

a football player. Yeah, work
out more now. Just learn how to

throw a football. There you go.
Kick a foot. You're a soccer

player. Oh, that's true. You
could be a public kicker,

thinking too old for pro sports.
That'd be cool, though, because,

like, typically, actors want to
be be musicians, athletes.

Athletes want to be musicians.
You know, everyone

does that is weird. You got it
all going

on. It's a grass is greener
thing, which is, like, is a

human condition.

But I don't know, is it
reciprocal with musicians, with

being like, Oh, I'd love to be
it. I think it's also sometimes

like, oh, musicians. Maybe I
found this. Maybe you have as

well. But being in the acting
world as well, you feel like you

go, Oh, man, I'd love to be a,
you know, six foot whatever,

tall actor or tall sports
person. I feel, I feel that

sometimes I'm like, Man, oh,
that guy's a stud. Love

to be tall, you know, you got
more places to put your food.

And I'm Italian, I like to eat,
you know. So you get you're

taller, that's right, you can,
but the same time you require

more food if you're taller. So
it's all a balance. It's all

discipline, it's all discipline.
It really, really is so. But how

did you originally get into
music? Wasn't it a spiritual

thing? Aren't you like, a like?
Weren't you involved in the

church? Well, my so my parents
were in ministry growing up,

kind of a thing. And. It,
funnily enough, my parents were

in a, I mean, I had done little
garage band kind of things with

friends and stuff that played
any type of music. But, yeah, my

parents were in a, I suppose
you'd call it, like a church,

worship or praise team kind of
thing. Yeah, that's very common.

The drummer got sick, drummers,
yeah, and it was one of those

things. So he said I used to
play like, hilariously enough,

it was, it was still the early
2000s or late 90s, I guess you

could say, and I was doing
bongos and Congas right up

there, doing the thing like
McConaughy, yeah, and the

drummer got sick one day, and
they just said, you can you jump

on a kit? And I said, I guess, I
don't know. I've watched him

every whatever, so that was part
of it. But yeah, actually, it

really came out of my mother
made me learn piano. You've hear

this story a million times,
right? Somebody's mom or someone

in the family makes them learn
piano. They hate piano, and

they're like, I don't want to
practice. That was me. And so I

finally said, Mom, I'm looking
at drummers going that that is

what I want to do. I don't know
how to get there, but that is

the instrument I want. Yeah. So,
yeah, my dad, there was a donut

shop in town. I was 14 years
old, and the donut shop owner

played jazz on the weekends.
Coolest cat named Tony. Of

course it was. And he had this
cool jazz kit. And I think he

had another one in his house. My
dad brought it home one day and

said, I don't know how you're
gonna play this. What a great

dad. He was a great he's a great
dad, yeah. And he absolutely,

yeah. He brought him home. And
my mom was like, You're not

playing. You know, actually, it
was full circle a week ago. The

guy goes, the guy who, who sold
me those drums. Goes, Do you

remember what I told you way
back when I said, No, but you

remind me? And he goes,
remember, I said, and he gave

me, like, a playlisted album,
and it had like all rock,

classic rock on it. And he said,
Hey, we don't have many people

in this town that play music,
but you can play with all these

bands if you put headphones on.
And I just remember sitting down

in in the basement. Very much so
around like this jazz kit that's

not meant for rock and wailing
on the drums going, this is

about as close as I'm gonna get
to being in a band, right? So

that was, unfortunately I never
learned I'm going backwards now

and learning, trying to learn
the actual chops and the things

that I need to learn, hands and
things that him and I have

spoken about, but back then, it
was just, yeah, yeah. It was

played with you play because no
one's there. You don't. You have

4000 people in your town. You're

doing what you can. You're it's
a passion. You're putting the

headphones on, playing to the
CD. That's exactly what I did,

yeah, but I didn't have
headphones. I had a giant

speaker next to me, big monitor,
not it was like it was my father

built it for my brothers. My
brother's a piano player, yeah.

And when my brother graduated
onto other monitoring, he my

brother literally had like, an
entire PA system in his bedroom,

so he'd play through that. So
this thing that my father built

was relegated to that
downstairs. I'm like, Well, hey,

I know how to connect a cassette
player, yeah. And I'd play off

of cassettes and lot of journey,
I was gonna ask, what did you

play to journey? Anything that
was on the local radio station

that, oddly enough, later on, I
began, I started working for,

oh, wow. So anything that came
on, so for me, like the testing

was, can you play the songs that
just came one after another? It

was like, roulette, yeah. And I
just learned how to play them by

and I remember hearing them same
thing with you. I saw the drums

and I knew I was naturally
gravitated towards this my mom.

I told my mom, what would you
know? Because my brother played

piano, what do you want to play?
You want to play an answer? Of

course, I do. What do you want
to play? The drums? Oh, the too

noisy. How about the saxophone?
I've always loved the saxophone,

and you know. And so I was
probably, you know, fourth

grade, and she got me a
saxophone, and I squeaked, you

know, they don't freaking make
noise at all, you know. And

yeah, about three, six months
later, I was done, yeah,

instrument your hearts into
getting, you know, point A to

point B. But still, the drums
are still, you know, the you

could play in so many different
musical outlets as a drummer,

folk music, funk music, pop
music, country, country rock,

Southern rock, fusion. You could
play on Broadway. You can play

tribute bands. You could play on
cruise ships. It's like you

could play a mean backbeat,
maybe read a little bit of

music, play some styles
versatile. You the drum set is

the most versatile thing as for
developing a career, way more

than a saxophone. You know what
I mean.

My first drum kit was at 11
years old. Similar kind of

story, probably an old leftover
Ludwig kit had the psychedelic

covering on it and stuff like it
was a green if you turn the

drum, the color moved and whoa,
if you're tripping on acid,

yeah, and it was I played jump
for the first time, first. How

did you know I want to know this
rich? How did you know you

wanted to take it to the utmost
and go. I want to learn the all

the education of this, because
there's one thing to go we're

drawn to an instrument right to
devote not just the time and

practice, let's put that aside,
but the actual education of like

going, I'm going to master this
instrument. What was that like?

When was that for you?

Well, you know, I just had a
natural affinity towards it. So

my dad got me drum lesson. Drum
lessons when I was six years

old, and I had this blue sparkle
snare drum, and I was reading

marches and learning rudiments
and how to play rock beats on

the drums and stuff. But I was
that is so young. So then I had

a departure. Gave it up for a
little bit, got into Star Wars,

figures, banana bikes,
skateboards, Star Wars, all the

stuff. And then, when I moved to
El Paso Texas and rejoined the

fifth grade band, I already knew
how to play a buttery smooth

press role and pause. You know,

he left out speed skating and

Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons
and Dragons, Dungeon Master,

what Lord of the Rings. What a
great game. What a great use of

your brain, because you have to
this was strategy. You, not only

that, you it's an it's about
imagination, which really, it

was just like when you play
jazz, or even if you play,

you're a country rock session
musician. You have to have

imagination. You have to have
creativity. You're, you're ad

libbing, you know, you're
improvising, you know. So this

stuff all kind of cross
correlates, but the band that

really, you know, MTV, came
along, so I wanted to be in the

police. And you're such a
beautiful gift giver. If you

guys are not watching this, Rob
came bearing gifts today. He

brought me a some police vinyl
and some and a police double DVD

live concert.

Very thoughtful. You'll never be
able to watch it, because there

are no DVDs. Any you

know what? I do have a DVD
player hooked up to my upstairs

man cave. So I have a room. It's
called My dog house room. So

when I'm in the doghouse, I go
up there, and I have my Italian

leather couches, and I got my
nice flat screen television with

a DVD player, and I could sit up
there, have some whiskey, watch

horror films, listen to DVDs.
It's amazing. So you're always

trying to get back to the dog
house. That's for going. That's

where, sometimes I do things on
purpose just to go to the dog

wanna, yeah, yeah, amazing. But
no, you've always been so

thoughtful. And so you're,
you're always so into fashion

and stuff. I was like, hey man,
I need to up my game on my, you

know, necklaces and stuff.
You're like, oh yeah, next day

you show up and you'd have a
necklace for me. Or like, Hey

man, you know, I lost my last
wallet chain. Next thing I know,

wallet change. You're just a
very thoughtful person.

Oh, bro. Well, I appreciate that
so, so much. Very nice. It's

easy when somebody's got, like,
a really good taste for things,

because you're like, they'll
like this. I know they will. So

what you're saying is, I'm a
challenge.

We were just talking about your
Carhartt collection before this.

I mean, Jim's wearing the most
comfortable shoes in the room,

correct? ON CLOUD dad shoes,
amazing. That's right, but

you're the ultimate dad bro,
because they're not on camera,

huh? They're not on camera. It's
true. It's true. It's like doing

a Zoom meeting with only no
pants, no pants

on so getting into the voiceover
world,

yeah, yeah.

What was, what was the turning
point for that? Because, oh,

something tells me that you were
a little bit of a class clown,

and you were doing, gotta be
impersonations and such. And

then people were like, somebody
encouraged you that was like,

you know, that you can make a
living at this.

Enough detention. You know, my
English Lit teacher was at our

show in my hometown a week ago,
and it was so cool to go give

her a big hug and a kiss,
because I was like, That's cool,

you know, just going to her and
saying, Hey, I know is in

detention all the time, but
thank you for kind of making a

problem, you know, a solution.
She used to have me and this

other kid that cut up all the
time. We're still buds to this

day, I actually read to the
class. So you get To Kill a

Mockingbird, and she's like,
you're going to take character,

and you're going to take
character, whatever, and you're

going to redo the class. Will it
hush the class? And next thing

you know, everybody aced their
English Lit Tet two months

later. Yeah. And so it was
really cool to watch that

happen. But yeah, really
voiceover for me, didn't really

happen until college. Believe it
or not, there was a band that

was going to tour the United
States for the first time. Had a

buddy who worked for that band,
and said, hey, just need a North

American voice, low American
voice. I'll buy you a burrito.

And I was like, college, you
have no money. Cool. You know,

great, awesome. And that was
kind of what got me started. I

ended up in the room on a

mic, and that was for Taco Bell.

A Taco Bell burrito. It was a
national ad.

So you're on the mic, and you're
realizing that you have an

affinity for this thing,

yeah, and, and not unsimilar to
Jim, where it's like you

started, I remember, actually
the I did, like, a radio

internship in in high school,
and I, I still didn't think I

really had any kind of whatever
I was doing radio programming,

like, hey, the kid who sit sits
in there and it does all the

dirty work kind of a thing. And
I think that's where I probably

was, like, having fun on a mic.
But I had no idea that I had

anything to offer. Yeah, and
then it was in college, yeah,

they basically had me do this
thing and and exactly as real.

Said there was three guys in the
room. It's the beginning of Mrs.

Doubtfire, where they're all
with cigarettes, and they're all

All right, you know, be on the
mic kind of a thing. So you're

just trying to get something out
of them. You can hear pin drop.

And so I'm telling them like,
Okay, I've never done this

before, but I'll just go ahead
and do it. So I do a bunch of

accents and dialog and just be
stupid, and they're entertained.

And the one guy goes, Man, I've
been in TV for 17 years. If you

wanted to do this, you really
could get a reel and do this.

And I was like, I'm in
Australia. I have an American

accent. Like, I'm not gonna get
any work here, right? So it

wasn't until I moved back and it
was my first thing was a Berea

pasta sauce, AD,

not Barilla, yes, Berea. And it
was for

like an Italian over the top
Lady and the Tramp kind of

voice. I can't even do it to
this day. I can't remember what

I did, but that was my first
thing, was for master chef in

Australia.

So why you were able to do like
an Italian accent once upon a

time, right? Not anymore.

Well, no, it's more just like, I
don't remember exactly what I

did for that, because it was so
long ago, right? But then again,

like I, I thought I actually had
a really crud Australian accent

when I lived there, but when I
got back, it just became, like

Immaculate Conception.

It's a tough accent. It's a very
it has to, you have, you have to

have a ring come out totally,

right? Yeah. So if

you had to do it on screen
acting job with a Australian

accent, it probably wouldn't be,
because I am these Australians

are fierce actors. They're
killing it. Yeah, most actors

work like some really top notch
actors in the United States are

British or Australian? Yeah? No,
they would never, I know. It

blows me away. The

guys that we had on the wolf
brothers. Wolf brothers.

Would you guys like a soda?
Guess when a soda?

I said, Give me an American
accent. And it's like, Okay,

now, give me an American accent
from Manhattan. They did

it. They pulled it off. Yeah,
you know who's losing some of

the Australian accent, I'm
realizing is, over time. Keith

Urban, you feel like he's been
here so long, losing it, man,

you know. And it's funny,
because he's married to an

Australian, right? Yeah, you'd
think it'd be around, you know?

Oh, well. So what I mean, what
does your Australian sound like?

Can you just pull it out of
about, out of a hat,

you know? Give us some copy.
Here we go.

A lot of Australians, they'll
say, This is for my Australian

friends out there. I lived in
Sydney for about four and a half

years for school. And when an
Australia, when Australian is is

frustrated with you, they'll
always go, Yeah, look, you know,

yeah. Look, mate, every
Australian will do that for

whatever reason. That's like,
their thing. Yeah.

Look, yeah, you have like, a
Hugo, Hugo, Hugh

Jackman. Hugh Jackman, yeah,
there you go. Well, I mean, he's

a song and dance, man, that's
right. Well,

it's amazing to me because
accents I could certainly do in

New York, which is where I grew
up, I could do so I could do a

good like, Clinton esque, raspy
Southern Living here, I'm sure,

well, yeah, well, even, but
around here, you don't, you

don't really hear too many
people. A lot of people

pronounce their uh, trailing,
G's very hard. So trailing, you

know, you hear that a lot around
here, but I can really get the

rest going and kind of talk like
this. And if I really get down

to it and I start pointing with
my phone, yeah, the mechanic,

yeah. All right, all right,

yeah. You know, there's a, you
know, the thick accent is the

east Tennessee, yeah, big time
can be very thick. And the

Carolinas, big Earth
hillbillies, Texas,

Texas has definitely

got a sump, yeah, yeah, for
sure.

Y'all, I'm learning that more
and more, especially that.

But you have a you have a like,
let's see. You've got a total

accents reel. Can we listen? I
can pull it up a little girl, if

you want to listen, if you if
you want to listen, we got

headphones right there. Do you
want to listen to? It rich,

totally. All right, let's see,
see if it comes through.

We're not here on this planet to
close our eyes to the world. We

are here to go out and
experience its many wonders,

because through our experiences,
we grow

and change. Grow and change.

As Melbourne enters its second
Coronavirus lockdown, the city

streets are again empty.

We wear cowboy boots. Oh my
goodness, a little dance with

the best you need land. We've
got

Texas amazing. That's a little
Sam to

capture the soul of a place in
Ebola.

Which we're lucky. Is it down
here? He said there'd be food

and lots of it. Scottish,

yes. Let's drink and put all
that chaos behind us. New

Zealand accent, yes, yeah. Text

me on WhatsApp. I have all the
information from Team Mobile.

Golden coconuts that grow in the
palm tree. No, that's great. Oh,

my God, the golden coconuts,
dude, that's, yeah, that's, I

tried to do a British accent
once I was requested to do a,

like, a television commercial
for a local pool company in

Vegas. And I said, We love your
British. I'm, like, where did

you hear my British? Well, we
heard you. It was like, you

know, on the one of the it was,
I was more Scottish, but make it

British, okay? And literally, we
in our house, we had a British

guy living with us, renting a
room, one of our friends. And

I'm, you know, took about 45
minutes for me to go through the

copy. And I'm, I'm doing my best
impersonation of Robin Leach.

You know, Robin leach lifestyles
of the rich, and it's awful. It

is awful, and I knew it, but
apparently they liked it. Yeah,

so I finish up, and I open the
door, and he's standing right

there as open, like, nose to
nose. He's like, What the hell

was that? Oh, my God, dude. I
know deflating. What? No, I

agreed with them, but did they
accept it and pay you? They paid

me. Amazing. So, but Rob, how do
you develop that and or maintain

it?

You guys are both lovers of
film, so you'll understand, as

far as just being able to on a
consistent basis, watch these

films, whether it be
international films or national

films, that have all these
accents. You know, what helped

me is being in an international
school. So, you know, four and a

half years of living in
Australia, I didn't just hear an

Australian accent every six
months. There was everybody from

everywhere. So you're in a room
and it's us three right here.

You're from Germany, you're from
France, I'm from America, or

where you're playing soccer or a
pickup game for something, or

you're playing, especially
music, you're in a band with

people, you would definitely
know this like you're in Texas,

but it doesn't mean that your
band's, you know, one's from

here, one's from there, so in
the same way, you know, everyone

who I played in a band with was
from everywhere. So it was very

helpful to not just have a bunch
of American friends, but to have

people from all over, you know,
the world in your ear all the

time listening. You're just kind
of gleaning from that. Yeah. So

yeah. And then obviously, had a
lot of Australian friends that

I'd learn a little bit of the
the regional where, like Perth,

has a different accent than
Sydney, and a different accent

than and I never really
understood. I mean, I'm from a

small, little rinky dink town,
you know, in western North

Carolina, so it was very weird
to move to a place where I'm not

only exposed to Australians, but
exposed to the world. I mean,

every like I said, six months
was a brand new intake of

international people.

What a great education. What was
that, that experience? It was,

it was college abroad.

Yep, college abroad. And,

you know, music focused in a lot
of ways, it was a leadership

development kind of a thing. So
I learned a lot of business

practices for, like, actually,
kind of starting your own

business, but from a leadership
aspect, which is cool in a

musical format, because you kind
of understand, then a little bit

maybe, of how to like lead a
band, which I'm still learning

every other day. You know? How
do you there's one thing about

putting a band together. How do
you read the band leader, direct

it, yeah, now, which is crazy
and you're just crushing it on

all fronts. Rob,

trying, man, trying.

So as a band leader, do you have
like, a hurrah before you go

out? You're like, Hey guys, make
sure on the second verse we

talked about that. Let's have a
great time. Do you know that

kind of a thing? It's

like Italy, we got that text
thread. There's one that's

strictly business, and then
there's one that's strictly fine

business. Yeah, there's two
threads. There's two threads

strictly, strictly business and
strictly funny business. And the

one we've established now is
like, if, if a text comes

through this one, you better
like it that you know that you

know this is where we're going.
This is what we're doing. You

told me, I'm gonna say, four
years ago now, which is crazy,

but you had mentioned to me that
one of the biggest things a

drummer can do is is to be the
person where the rest of the

band goes. I don't have to
question where I'm at in a song,

right? I don't have to question
where we're going, what we're

doing. You're that rock solid
piece that goes, and I've really

taken that to heart rich, where
it's like, I want to try to be

that, drive the band, to drive
the band, but to also kind of be

this, you know, if they, if they
are looking at me nervous, it's

like,

we're gonna be all right, yeah,
you know, telegraph the sections

of the song totally,

and I'm still learning that.
But, man, it's a, it's a heck of

a gig that way. Oh my

god. Well, I mean, geez, you
guys are just going to keep

climbing and climbing and the
venues keep getting bigger and

bigger. You know, I love my
instruments so much I'll play

anywhere. But, you know, after
you play an amphitheater or an

arena, it really is hard to go
back and and play small venues,

you know, because you're just
like, where's. All the people in

the bras. You know, what do you
mean bras? Well, they throw the

brows on the stage. You know,
they still do that, I think so

occasionally. Yeah,

I'm sure Jack gets a bra. What
about to Jack bros

man's ears,

bloomers? But no, I love my I
love my instrument. So, I mean,

I still, I still, I still play a
wedding, still play a bar

mitzvah, but it's, isn't it fun
to play big venues in a wedding

that might throw the bra you're
reaching a maximum number of

people at one time, and it's
like high energy, you know,

there is no, I mean, that, you
know, truthfully, I am learning

that there's such an intimate
experience about those smaller

venues where you can actually
see all the faces, right? And

the lights aren't just there all
the time, but yeah, I mean,

what? Especially that seat, the
best seat in the house. You hit

that kick drum in an arena?
Yeah, there's nothing like it.

And we all know that in the
sense of, like, my gosh, like,

it's thunder, you know, it's
like thunders in town. Yeah,

your voice is foot right, which
is so crazy. And it helps when

you've introduced me to Porter
and Davies, when you feel it,

did you get your one, get
yourself one working on it. But

it's on my rider every time we
go out. But

do you guys have you got the
contact number for the guy?

Yeah, it only gets so good. I
mean, I don't think they're

given any to anyone. You got to
pay a little, oh yeah, because

there's two guys in a garage in
Liverpool, and they're just like

Russia. I mean, you know, it's a
family business. There's that

they make the rectal evinrudes.
The rectal Evinrude Yes, so

I want to learn this from you
guys. But how, in the different

facets of life, how do you guys
balance what all that you do,

because drummer, drummer.

Because we all

actor, voice actor, actor, voice
actor, yeah, how do you there's

many different myriad I'm
actually learning more right

now, when I first walked in,
about more what Jim does, yeah,

and you're diversifying like
crazy. But how do you manage all

I mean, I find it very difficult
to do that whilst touring, for

sure, I don't know. I mean, I
know, in the thick of it, when

Rich was doing

he even said, whilst, whilst,
whilst it's like,

how do you think? You know, I
really do want to learn that,

especially at this stage, and
not just career, but life where,

like, I took on, you know, I got
married recently, and all those

kinds of things, and I'm
learning it never

gets you guys are probably going
to start soon, right?

Yeah, it's all part of it,
really, yeah, well, Rob,

do you enjoy having hair?

Indeed, exactly, typically,

you know, when you get, you
know, you diversify, as you so

eloquently state and you start,
you start pulling your hair out

because, you know, you get
spread

thin. There are days where Jim
is multitasking so much, 15

podcasts, voice over, work,
running a company, Father,

just jumping from one project to
the next. Yeah, that's, I mean,

total. But I mean, if I, if I
could, you know, how did you get

some of the I'm seeing, some of
the gigs you're getting, and I'm

like, this is the stuff I should
have been doing a long time ago.

I just never, either, you know,
fell into it or pursued it as

much as I should have. And, you
know, for me, at this stage of

doing voiceover, let's say just
find somebody who can coach me.

Is a rare breed. You know, I
could do a lot of coaching for

other people, but Chuck Duran,
you know, he is, he did my last

demo, and he actually coached
me. He could actually, I'm like,

Okay, I gotcha. You know, being
humble enough after 25 some odd

years doing course, yeah, but I
my voice is and my approach is

the way it is. I'm just not sure
how appealable it is. You know

what I mean? Or if there's a fit
out there, or even if, you know

if AI is going to be replacing
all of us at some point, oh, my

God, you know. And

you just got engaged, by the
way, yeah, buddy. She's the slow

burn taught me exciting things,
man, it's exciting. You know,

we're all evolving, you know,
constantly. But you know, if you

know, I I love to fancy myself
an actor. I mean, I did study, I

did get my side card. In under
five years, I have been in

legitimate productions. But
let's face it, it is the ice

thing on my cake. You know, it's
the icing on my cake. I don't

have time to do 80 auditions a
year to try to get a sure

pharmaceutical commercial or
something like that. So my plan

on doing that, and I do want to
continue doing it, is trying to

develop relationships with
people that thought, meet the

producer, meet the director,
sure. So it is so difficult to

try to get the audition, get the
call back, then you might have

to do a chemistry and then when
there, oh, here's the actual

shoot. Can't do the actual shoot
for it to all actually line up

and happen is nearly impossible
while being a touring drummer

and on and I'll say this for
rich, I've never realized how,

especially being on tour. I
learned, right? I mean, like on

the concrete, they're going,
where's rich going today? Yeah,

he's going and doing a clinic.
He's educating at a university.

He's maximizing what he's got a
whole nother realm of he's doing

a speaking engagement for the
CEO of and his entire staff of

this thing. And I'm going, how
does. Manage all this, like,

this is crazy, and run the band.
And, you know,

how do you do it? How do you do
it when? Because if you guys are

out there, and you know, you're
in that part of your career

where you're like, out a lot,
not coming home a lot, yes,

they're making it happen. And
you got a voiceover job, you got

a mobile studio,

so the best, it's a sure SM, 88
you can buy them on Amazon.

They're like, 100 and some
dollars, I swear by them. And

they come with a free app. It's
called automotive or something

like that,

and finding the place to do it,
yeah?

Well, I mean, you know, it's if
you can be humble enough in

hotel rooms or be humble enough
in a trailer, the guys

understand, I just go, Hey,
look, I'm taking those pillows,

or I'm taking that mattress and
I'm putting it up against the

corner of this thing. I need it
quiet for 20 minutes. That's all

I need from you guys. And they
laugh, and I've moved around

their stuff in busses and
trailers and whatever, and just

made it work. And honestly, the
best thing in the world that has

been so helpful over the years
is where we're at, and I'm sure

you guys have done this, but
where we're at, if we're in a

city where I can get to a
studio, I'll get in an Uber and

I'll go to a studio, do a
session and make sure I'm back

in time, or wake up way earlier.
And it's amazing how many

studios have been so hospitable

to Hey, can I crank this out?
Man, I only need an hour. That's

it. And they've been so sweet.
I'm on tour, I'm doing drums,

and they see this grind that
you're, you know, much like what

Rich is doing, where he's, like,
you just went and spent four and

a half hours and met everyone at
your clinic, yeah? And then you

came back and played for 95
minutes, yeah, or longer,

whatever it is, or the amazing
thing that I would see was, and

I still don't know to this day,
how you do it. A lot of people

don't know. They do a VIP, yeah,
so you're doing a show before

the show, before the show. So
it's kind of like a whole day

thing and working out. So I've
always just, I'm trying to learn

that balance into my own life,
and so it's just trying to do. I

think it's

great, dude. You're keeping it
all happening, dude, I mean, and

that is amazing.

So you had mentioned this
before, doing a voice off. Oh,

wow. And in all of your inboxes,
I sent a small copy, like a tag,

some copy.

Oh, my God, who wants to try it
first? I'll tell you, my phone's

not on because I'm trying to be
a good guest. No, no, no, turn

it on. That's fine. Let

me know when you get it.
Everyone's looking

what are we trying to deliver
here? As far as like, however

you want to interpret, let me
see here. Get some copy coming.

You know, it's a very
personalized, probably a regular

guy approach. We

should do this every week. Just
send each other copy,

you know, the audio message. You
know,

that's fine, little group text.
There's actually there was,

remember when, oh gosh, what was
it called clubhouse? Remember

when clubhouse was a thing and
there was voice over workout

groups that, like, three major
voiceover artists would get

together, and everybody would
chime in, and they'd actually

read copy and be critiqued and
nice stuff. It was really cool

meetup groups. Yeah, so rich.
Want to go,

I mean, without even really
thinking about it, I'm just

going to go off the cuff. Okay,
I'm just a regular guy who wants

the same thing everyone else
does, food, family, shelter,

friends and plenty of ice cold
Budweiser, just not necessarily

in that order.

I bet at all was Hey neighbor

motioning to me, yes, sir, here
we go. I just got it, by

the way. I yeah, I O, U, A, E, I
O, U, I would probably need to I

Aquaman, red leather, yellow
leather. I'm

just a regular guy who just
wants the same thing everyone

else wants food, family,
shelter, friends and plenty of

ice cold Budweiser, just not
necessarily in that order.

Nice is that too? Announcing,

no, not No. Actually, it was
very genuine. Thank you. I'm

just a regular guy and wants the
same thing. Everyone else wants

food, family, shelter, friends
and plenty of ice cold

Budweiser.

It's not necessarily in that
order,

and that's why he gets that

has a lot of inflection and
naturalism,

just not

necessarily. I sent you another
one. Oh, here's a I'll send it

to you. I don't think I said to
the year we

should make this a segment in
Redmond show, and make every

guest do it voice offs. Could
you imagine that's a thing? I

mean, it's only right. You guys
are both voice actors. So

well, if somebody's not a voice
actor, it's, you know, that's

even better. Can you imagine the
entertainment value? Totally

incredible.

It's a little bit longer one.
Okay, I. See it refreshing.

Hello, ladies, look at your man.
Now, back to me. Now, back at

your man. Now, back to me.
Sadly, he isn't me, but if he

stopped using lady scented body
wash and switched to Old Spice,

he could smell like he's me.
Look down, back up. Where are

you? You're in a boat with the
man. Your man could smell like

what's in your hand. Packet me,
I have it. It's an oyster with

two tickets to that thing you
love. Look again. The tickets

are now diamonds. Anything is
possible when your man smells

like old spice and not a lady.
I'm on a horse.

What honestly,

Hello, ladies, did you book
that? No,

I mean now, like, No, I wish I
did. They missed out.

I was like, He's done this? No,
this is his gig.

First time I performed it. Thank
you, though, give me a break.

Who's next? My God,

it's a character, though. I
mean, that's probably what

helped me read it all the way
through. Hey, it's almost like

my I'm channeling my brother in
law. Hey, ladies, look at your

man. Now, back to me. Now, back
at

your man. It's confidence man,
right? It's

almost like a superhero, old
school announcer. I think

I remember this one. It's the
the guy on the horse. Yeah, on

the white horse. This was a good
commercial. Oh, yeah. Very eye

catching. Yeah. He was like,
shirtless.

I'm on a horse. So good. Who's
next? Geez,

Rich. So do you have to create a
character, whatever? Just

go for, go for interpretation.
What's your interpretation of

it?

Do it. Come on, jeez. Man, I'm
all go.

We'll go into impressions next.

Man, who's the character? Yeah,
who is character? Very

confident. It's very, it's the
copy is confusing. Man,

it is. It's very, you did it
very well to like, I felt like I

was watching the commercial in
my head all over again, because

I remember him. It was like,
super cuts, right, right?

Everything was,

yeah, yeah. I might have been
just impersonating the guy who

did it, but I'm

gonna stuff this one up. I feel
like, because it is, it's, you

got a lot going on. It's really
good, though. Also, I have just

realized that I am missing out
on this QR code at the end of

how smart. Man,

that's attached to every email
just immediately attaches. Jim,

I want to get something, but
wait a minute. But if you have

the QR code and you're already
on your phone, it defeats the

purpose, because there's nothing
to snap the QR code, but it's if

you're on

you have all the links on there.
You can click the links in the

JM, VO demo.

You know, we got to do, I just
realized so I have a buddy who

we made a deal a decade ago,
whoever, kind of whatever made,

made some traction in our
industry. First, we take him out

to dinner, whatever he was an
animator, of course, he made it

right? Pretty crazy. So he got
hired with Pixar. He now works

for Warner Brothers, doing
stuff, but he will, it's the

most fun thing ever, and I
promise we will do this. He'll

send characters that he's made,
that he practices with. Well,

he'll go to coffee shops, or
he'll be in a studio working on

characters, right? Just that
kind of come out of his head.

Yeah. So I've always said the
greatest thing you could do

right as a voice actor is like,
give him an animated figure and

go, what's, what's the voice of
this character? So what we

should do, for sure is get three
characters for him to do and

send me and Jim rich. That would
be fun,

isn't that's a major goal in
your life, is to do cartoon.

Yeah. I mean, you know, when you
do a lot of characters and

accents, I remember the best
thing I learned from a piano

teacher, believe it or not, or
who, I guess you could call her

like a dual teacher, because she
would do vocal and piano, which

is pretty typical, right in
town, right? I don't know if

they've ever told you this, but
this blew my mind. And she was

just like, hey, what's your
range in voiceover? And I was

like, Well, what do you mean by
that? And she's like, well,

what's your lowest note on a
piano, what's your highest

probably 185 Yeah. And she goes,
What's your lowest note on a

piano, what's your highest note
you can hit and you may acid.

I'm not a singer. She goes, I
don't care if you're a singer.

What's the lowest note you can
hit? What's the highest note you

can sit? So she did that, and
then she went, well, there's

your character range, yeah,
there's your highest note. You

can take a character with all
your different palettes of

accents or dialects or aging,
and there's your lowest note,

but a character you have to
embody, right, right? Like even

like Cletus T Judd said this. He
says, I can't sing, but I can

sing in the key of funny. And
he's basically talking about a

character, yeah? And I get what
he's saying, because my, you

know, my most impersonated
character is Christopher Walken,

always has been, yeah, but it's
always been somebody else doing

it. That I absorb. You know,
sure, Morgan Freeman might be my

latest one I've been kind of,
sort of working on, but it's

Frank Caliendo. Is Morgan
Freeman. He's good, he's

amazing. Oh my God, because he's
all, all, all. Morgan Freeman is

an old man, and he's got to kind
of look, you know, lay out the

you want to drive a point home.
You got to make sure you do it

like it's genuine man, yeah, I
mean, and that's, how he is. You

know,

theater for the blind is what a
buddy of mine said had gone

that's true. Yeah, theater of
the mind, yeah.

You know, thinking back on this,
I almost feel like with

VoiceOver, I'm a one trick pony,
so I don't know if it's going to

be something that's going to be
on my resume for the rest of my

life, or like even

you're capable of doing it, you
know, it's your your voiceover

is your character, of you in
terms of being an MC, a host and

announcer. So if you were to go
down that road and they want,

you know a who's the guy? Ryan
ranci, Chris Ryan Seacrest,

yeah. Old Man brain. He doesn't
exactly do voiceover, but he

does himself. You know, he can
play himself in somebody who

imagined, who imagines a Ford
commercial. Oh, we want a Ryan

Seacrest. He's gonna sound like
Ryan Seacrest, yeah, you know

what I mean. But

on camera, you have all the
diversity in the world. Because

I feel like people probably have
said this to you so many times,

but your ethnicity could be so
many things, right? Like, it

just works for camera so well,
because it's like, Oh, my God,

he could be Greek, he could be
Italian, he could be, you know,

Arabic, he could be Egyptian.
You know, it doesn't matter.

It's like, where one actor is,
like, you're the pale American,

all American boy,

technically ambiguous,

yeah, it's cool to have that, if

you had to be pigeonholed, yeah.
Have you ever played like the

seemingly nice Hispanic
gangster?

I have not played the gangster
I've played as of recent I

played the maintenance guy,
Pablo, and I grew up my mustache

and did the whole it was for a
pilot of a television show,

nice. And it was the Hispanic,
very like immigrant, kind of guy

looking at some of the pictures
you have on your website, like

the

cowboy Marlboro thing,
incredibly. Well, there's a lot

I'm typecasted. Man, that's my
apparently, that's the thing,

and I follow. And, you know,
well, it's just like, I don't

know what it is, but I think
it's, yeah, probably what I get

mostly booked for is kids,
cowboy gigs,

really. And what's that actor?
What's that actor that a lot of

people are comparing you

to? John Bernthal. John Burns is
like an older bro, yeah, the

Punisher. Respect the heck out
of hell. He's a great actor, Man

Walking

Dead and beyond.

It's like he's almost like a
step away from a Frank Grillo

too. Oh, I love

him. And I mean, you go watch
fury, you know him, and Shia

LaBeouf, and though that whole
crew, yeah, I don't know if

there's better acting just stuck
in a tank like you're just

watching it go,

yeah, Frank Brillo did great
with them. You know, lifelong

boxer fitness guy, later life
actor.

Was he a boxer fitness guy? And
that's, that's, oh, yes, whole

life a boxer. He played, I
believe I saw him for the first

time in a Marvel movie, in the
Captain America movies. He led

rumlow, that's

right, yeah, you wouldn't. One
of my goals, truly is I get,

well, I gotta get a tan first
again, but post summer, I wanna

do a project with rich, whether
he plays my older brother, where

we just it'd be cool to do some
sort of on camera thing, and

then the other like, kick the
bucket thing is, he may not

remember this, but we made a PA,
I said, Rich, I am pushing you

to do a comedy set. Yeah, at
some point he really wants me to

go to I'm telling you, we're
gonna either do a Zanies night

or we're going to Atlanta. So
Jim, if you want to hop in the

truck, sure we're doing it, man.
Because

guys, you know what you haven't
done yet, some stand up comedy.

He would crush. You know he
would crush? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, you gotta have

goodbye. I do. I'm part of a
group every week, and it's like,

I know I can be funny here and
get laughs and stuff like that,

because I'm in my element. Yeah,
it's long form. I can take my

time whenever I'm constrained
for time, especially every week

I'm in a business networking
group. We get 30 seconds to talk

about a commercial of sorts, and
a lot of people try to be funny,

and whenever I try to eye bomb

every Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. BNI, you only have 30

seconds. Yeah, I thought that
was 60 at least. Oh, well, that

in our group. So it's 30 seconds
for your hard pitch, for your

business,

but it's, it's, you're doing it
every week. It's like having a

billboard up Gotcha. So as long
as you really can, you know,

make your messaging concise and
to the point that's

not easy though, 30 seconds.

Actually, I prefer 15 because, I
mean, in the radio world, it

forced somebody to think about,
how do you say what you do and

say what problem you solve? Tip
of the spear, type of offering

that gets the most conversation
started in the smallest amount

of time. That. That's the most.
That's the best thing a business

owner can do, in my opinion. You
know,

hey, he's going to beat us at
this game. But I think we should

move on, because he's going to
win. You just don't want to do

move right? Well, I just think
that the the average listener is

like, Yeah,

we're gonna win. We're now,
we're they're probably like,

we're over it. Okay, so

let me ask you this to bring
this back to drumming. What was

the what is your drumming like?
Who's your favorite couple of

drummers? Stewart Copeland,
boom, right

there, right? I mean, of course,
super definable. And what's

weird is, I like some of the
cuts on, like, synchronicity

that I feel like a lot of people
would be like, Oh, you don't

like that or not. You don't like
that one. But that's weird, go

and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah.
It's just like, some of the,

some of the choices you made are
super cool, yeah, I of course,

just love the musicality of John
Bonham, sure. I think it's super

cool that he would just throw
the sticks out and then play

with his hands. And, you know,
talk about a showman, you know,

like, super cool stuff like
that. And, I mean, you know,

it's hard not to modern wise,
adore what you do and and I, you

know, I think so much of it, too
is just, you know, of course,

it's, it's cool to see my wife
is an artist and a country

artist, and watching what McHugh
does in the studio is really

cool. And just watching his
choices and that kind of stuff,

as far as you know, modern guys
that are doing it. I have a

buddy right now, absolutely,
just a powerhouse drummer. His

name's Garrett Tyler, and if
you're not familiar with him,

please just go check him out. He
plays with a couple different

people, Mike zabilla for king
and country in the kind of more

Christian, Christian girl, but
he's, he's putting out records

with buddies, and he's just talk
about, I think he Modern

Drummer. Chose him recently and
for some sort of a cover story.

But talk about just somebody who
inspires you. I will say another

Modern Drummer that I absolutely
love, not to just go to

throwbacks, but modern guy is
Dan McMurray, another lesser

known guy, maybe in just the
full spectrum of things, but, my

goodness, an absolute machine,
showman, everything else. So

it's just, I try to, like, toss
it to people also, who are like,

now doing stuff that's
inspiring.

Why don't we know Garrett
Tyler's name? It's like, I

follow him on Instagram, or,
sure, but what does he is he

play with man again, you know,
Mike Seville has done some

international tours for King
countries, probably one of the

biggest things in Christian
music, if not. You know, their

their Christmas tours, like a go
and watch him Buble or

something. I mean, it's
unbelievable, the production

value of it, but Garrett's done
quite a lot of session stuff.

But, man, I don't know. I just
think, other than Modern Drummer

and a lot of these other
entities that support drummers,

they're really keeping their eye
on him, just cool and humble as

can be, which is always, you
know, the greatest thing in the

world to just watch somebody be
an absolute animal on stage, and

then you're like, and you're
humble.

How about the Harry Myrie? He's
like, Oh, dude, doesn't he? But

the Jim Carrey thing is on. It's
scary,

yeah, he's we had him on via
Zoom, zoom during, during the

pandemic, during the pandemic.
And it's funny, because all the

girls we were in a different
building, who is that? And it

was like, you know, over zoom,
yeah. It's like, son, on. It's

Yeah, amazing. Talk about
feeling old.

Rob, what's your favorite color?
Green, forest green. What's your

favorite food? I would have to
say Mexican food. Yeah, yeah.

Like, just a nice, solid. How
weird, as an Italian to say that

goes. I mean, who doesn't like
tacos? But I love there's

something about a burrito. I had
to go the other day, especially

a breakfast burrito. You got
two. Burrito. You got, you got

eggs, you got Pico, you got
guac. Maybe they put a little

sausage in there, chorizo, and
it's all rolled up, and it's

portable, and it's so masculine
you grab this thing, and it's so

satisfying every time, it's
amazing. Yeah, it doesn't

give you a gut bomb burrito.
It's a little large. You know,

sometimes it it'll act like two
meals. Not caliborina, not

California burritos. Where I go,
Cali burrito is a good place,

but what's the place up? By
Simon Zoe's Baja burrito.

Baja burrito. Oh, my God, but I
do prefer California burrito

over here, by the public that's
my spot. I don't know how they

stay in business. Every time I
go in, it's a ghost town. Lot of

takeout. Lot of takeout. Yeah,
no one sits in there. It's like

a little strange, but great
burrito, yeah? Breakfast

burritos, or the California
burrito, which is basically

chicken guac pico sample. They
don't ruin it with a bunch of

cheese and sour cream and all
that American stuff. You know,

you'd mind. You know,

have you found the best burrito
in town as of yet, you've been

here a minute. Well, California

burritos, I'll tell you there,
yeah, okay. I mean, because all

the Mexican restaurants, with
maybe one or two exceptions, I

mean, we probably got like 13 of
them, they're very chewy, right?

Well, I don't even, I'm not even
sure if they're that good, you

know, I think they're. They're
just kind of okay, you know, we

have the new one that opened in
the old car joke, ahead. Day,

and we went there for lunch, and
it's like, okay, you know, get

it, it kind of, they kind of run
together. I hear you. Nothing

really, Cali burritos,
California Mexican. No,

yeah. What about your favorite
drink? It could be, you know,

boozy or not. Oh my gosh, you're
a coffee guy, right? We share a

lot of

coffee. I was gonna say I'm
absolutely addicted to coffee.

So, for sure, coffee, yeah, no
doubt. And particular kind

French press, man, I do like a
French press I am. I'm a very

Italian kind of like espresso,
just right to the veins kind of

a thing.

You know, who he'd get along
with really well. Who's that?

Mercurio,

yeah, his name, yeah, it's like,
Zorro, yeah. Mike

Mercurio, he'll be here
tomorrow. It's really, it's

funny because, as we're kind of
talking, it's like, it's kind of

too bad you don't live around
here, because he'd be a good

hang at the cigar shop. Oh,
yeah. Well, he'll make

the drive. Let me say this rich
before, since I get the honor of

being on the show, there's so
many you know, you can walk into

any most bars in this town. And
I've learned with rich that you

walk in and there's probably a
good three or four people that

are just going to come out of
nowhere and give Rich a hug,

yeah, not out of just even the
pure music industry, but most of

the time they're drummers. And I
will say it is the wildest

thing, and this is myself
included, over the years, to sit

back and literally go like where
you should and most certainly

could, how take all the work in
the world from from you

literally prod all of us to be
greater. And it's a weird thing

to know that you might not on
this side of things. Might not

be where you want to be without
people like that in your life.

And you are one of those people,
and I can say, for just doing

this record, staying with the
artists, I have the loyalty in

that regard, coming to you at
weird times in life, not knowing

exactly what to do, or you've
had those phone calls I've had,

or texts like rich, what? Not
even, what would you do? What

would you just motion me to do?
Yeah, and you have been so not,

you know, one sided on things
given me a greater perspective.

And I think a lot of drummers in
this town benefit their entire

futures and their families on
not just education, but you

going, I'm gonna put you on my
shoulders, man. So, oh, wow.

Like, truthfully, I want to say
that this, this podcast, should

kind of be a place for drummers
to kind of go, man, let me put

the spotlight on you, man.
Because, Oh man, that's I

wouldn't be here without you.
So, oh, it's true, Rob, thanks

for being in my wedding. I
appreciate. I love you to

death. I really appreciate it.
Was a serious honor. And have

you been listening to the recent
episodes by chance? So the the

Ben satterly

is a buddy of mine, and that was
so cool to see him on the show.

Like, I guess it was two or
three weeks

ago. He was a he was, yeah,
probably, and he's

another guy that just gives
away. It's like he learns the

thing, like, how many people do
you

share, shares his value and just
gives it away.

And very much, like, rich in
that way, where it's just like,

oh yeah, man, this program or
this app or this thing, you

know,

it's like, you got to give it
away if you want to keep it.

That's, that's the thing, you
know. And that's, that's the

beautiful thing is, and
especially in this, you know,

season of my life, I don't want
to be like, Oh my God, I need

your you know, I need Geritol.
But it's just, you know, you get

to a point where you've required
some wisdom, and it's like, what

am I going to do? I want to give
it away, you know. And I'm not a

genius, but I just know that if
people have moved here, they

want to do the thing. If they
show up with a smile and a firm

handshake, they're doing the
best they can at all times and

trying to exceed expectations.
You could buy a house and have a

life. Man, you could be part of
this music community. Man, we

have a great one. You know,

it's unreal. Go read Rich's
book, by the way. Oh, thanks,

buddy. I can, honest to God say
I've read it twice and

making it a country music Yeah,
thanks, buddy. Absolutely. It

should actually be required
reading. It all college music

programs. But anyway, you just,
I mean, you have to have

somebody working on your behalf
all day long on a phone going,

you know, calling every library,
every college, every prison in

the United States, going, do you
have a copy of this? You got to

do a book tour, right? You know.
And does that really, you know,

help ROI or sales, I don't know.
It's books are hard. You have it

available, though, clinics, you
know, here's my book, yeah,

yeah, it's awesome. We are going
to have a booth at the Music

City drum show, and the co
author of my book Making a

country music, Jennifer de la
Sanna, hey, another Italian.

She's going to be there with Jim
McCarthy at the booth. We're

going to have a nice step and
repeat. We're gonna have a lot

of my products. I won't be there
on the Saturday, but you can say

hi to Jim and Jen, and then I'll
be there on the Sunday.

I'll be fielding a lot of
questions, like, where's rich?

But it's

cool. You can talk drums, and
then you get their email

address. We got an email list
for you guys. It's gonna be fun.

It

was funny, speaking of getting
recognized, you know when you he

goes and you go with him play?
Yeah, 34 so my brother comes to

town over this past weekend, and
we go to jbjs, and up there on

the top level, you can actually
look down on the drummer and

watch him and stuff like that.
So we're both just sitting here

having a drink, and they wanted
to experience Nashville in that

realm. So, you know, they
finished the song, and I start

clapping. The guy looks up at
me, and he does double take, and

he goes, You're Jim McCarthy,

yeah. Okay.

That means somebody has tuned
into our program. Somebody's

actually watched the video. It's
really amazing, hey, so we know

about his favorite colors,
favorite drink, his favorite

food. Do you have some of those
deep questions, or do you want

to go in with the

question? The the deep question.
The deep question would be, if

you had to forego all things to
be played for the rest of your

life and only play one artist in
a tribute band?

Oh, my God. What would that
artist be

like my till the day you die,
you can't play anything else

over and over

and over again.

Okay? And it can't it only can
be yeah one, yeah. I Okay. They

were a duo, but I would yeah for
forever play their music, log

ins and Messina. Wow. Interest
Absolutely. Yeah,

they have enough hits, though. I
mean, your mama don't dance and

your daddy don't rock and

roll like vehavala That song,
the that record, specifically

from a drummer's point of view,
please. If you're a drummer or

percussionist, whatever, go
listen to that record. And what

they did live in the studio,
it's, it's a wonderment of fun.

And they went on trails of three
minutes after the song. You

don't get tired of it. They
switch time signatures, they

switch tempo. Was

that something coming up that
your parents turned you onto or

something my dad?

Yeah. I mean, my dad was the
music. It was the tastemaker,

yeah, it was, like, it was
weird, because we grew up in

like, ministry, but at the same
time, he was the cool dad, who

was the hippie way back when,
and was, like, knew all the good

music, yeah, and so on the way
we'd be on the way, he was the

principal of my school, so I
grew up. Wow, kid, yeah, which

is, well, I don't know if you
knew that your dad is a

principal. He loves Rich Dad,
Bob ricotta, very Italian. Hey,

cheese.

John Morgan's dad, nice cabinet.
Drive the bus for you guys. You

know,

yeah, that's right, but yeah. So
log ins and Messina, I would

say, Wow.

You are an old soul, totally an
old soul. Love it. So our friend

Jack Bruno has been playing for
Jim Messina, and they just

played a show over at the
Franklin theater in Franklin,

Tennessee, and I missed it.
Yeah, and

the sax player for his band will
be playing with me. Oh,

there you go. Yeah. See this
next? Steve Nieves, what a

community, yeah, what an
incredible community. What's the

best way for folks to get in
touch with you guys? Get that

got a.com or something? Or

robertri.com, R, I, C, O, T, T,
A, if you can't remember it,

it's the cheese in every Italian
dish. Robert, ricotta.com. Nice.

That's easy. Easiest way to get
a hold of me. That's amazing.

And then obviously, socials.
It's wild worlds. How many

people? Yeah, well, that's

easy. Drums come from John

and I was because of the cheese,
a friendship, you know,

conversation where he went,
Look, man, you can't just post

all, like, my voice over and
acting stuff, and I'm like, All

right, and he kind of gave me a
hard time about it. And I said,

Yeah, you're right. You know,
we're on the road the majority

of the time and and I said,
Well, I'm gonna make a bit of a

fool of myself. I'm not a chops
guy, and my last name's a

cheese. Someone just call it
cheesy drums, amazing. So that's

but our ricotta is Instagram,
and that's that's also, as you

know, social media is like, the
it's weird. You can message

people through there now, and
it's okay.

Lot of people send me DMS like
people, even though want to take

my drum drum lessons or our drum
10s of it. And I was like, Hey,

man, here's my number. Yeah, I
prefer texting. I really do,

because I'll see it fit more
than agree. I don't have my

notifications on from the
socials. Otherwise the phone

would be like a Christmas

you're so good at getting right
back. I try to get back to

people

immediately. Immediately. I try
that. I try it's great. I really

do. You're good

at that. If you go to his
website, you're gonna get finger

fatigue. Looking at the pages as
brands, in my voice just keeps

on going.

Now, didn't you do some high end
car brands like

Porsche? Claire just did your
Indian Motorcycle reached out,

and I've loved their brand for a
long time, just because they

literally their motorcycles got
us through the First World War,

which is crazy. So they're like
110 year old parts of history,

and they re released their
motorcycle that basically

started their brand way back
when, and they said, Hey, would

you be the voice of our company?
And I was like, Man, that's

crazy. So that's been a really
fun one recently to work on with

them. Yeah, I've done some some
car stuff over the years, and I

always say, like, low. Voices
that move you are always going

to sell chocolates and cars

to you, and there's jewelry,
some some trailers like video

games,

yeah, just that's a World Man,
like, you know, when you have

just goals for yourself, right?
That's it's another thing I feel

like with to your point of AI,
it's like we got to keep up with

the times of where things are
going. And it's like video games

are truly cinematic. Now it's
just unbelievable. They really

are. And so getting a part of
trailers for video games was a

goal of mine in the last year
and a half was to just really

pound that pavement and find
people that I really aligned

with, and especially characters
and showing that side of what I

do. So thankfully enough, I've
been working a lot with a brand

called Counter Strike, but they
do a lot of competitions around

the world, and been doing all
their trailers, which is cool,

and it allows me to

they kind of give me free reign.
They don't,

they don't hire another actor.
They go, we want you to do all

five voices in this trailer. Oh,
it's really, really fun. Oh, my

God, switch on the spot and it's
fun. Yeah, have conversations

with yourself. Going, my wife
thinks it's just the weirdest

thing ever, because, you know,
I'll wake up audio books. It's,

well, it's strange, you know,
you switch on the fly. People

think it's a session where
you're like, Oh, I'll go, we'll

do that character tomorrow. And
it's like, no, you're doing them

like, in, you

know, yeah, holy cow. But that
isn't

credible. So it's, it's a wild
world that way, but it is fun.

It's a lot of fun, I bet.

Yeah, that's a goal.
Congratulations on that. Thank

you being achieved. You know, I
was talking to our friend Thomas

Lang about doing video games.
And of course, you know, video

games as a as an economy, are
like, they are way above music.

Yeah,

above every I mean, video games
are their own ecosystem. It is.

And he goes, you would not
believe the budget to these

things. So he says, like armed
security guards will come to his

house with hard drives because
that hard drive has all the

confirmation of the in the FBI
never fell on the wrong so it

literally Brinks. Security
trucks come with these guy,

muscle guys. They show up in the
house. There's a guy at the door

they, he's like, Who's that?
Well, that's my child. That's my

kid. You know, is he going to be
here during and there's like, a

whole budget, and they've got
budget for, like, you fill out

the budget, because they have to
spend the money. So he's, like,

napkins, toilet paper, coffee
catering for the next several

days. That all shows up at the
house, and then these guys are

there while he's tracking and,
you know, he's playing on all

the like the, you know, that's
the last beat stuff. I would

never get called for that stuff,
I mean, but it'd be cool at some

point to do some sort of a video
game. That'd be neat 100% our

friend Tony Mora does all Mora
does a lot of those too. I

recorded Tony's house a lot. He
does a lot of those with the

fast feet and stuff.

So cool. Man, I feel like these.
Another example, just the other

day, watching on a flight the
Grand Theft Auto thing, you

know, coming up. Been going, you
look at it. You go, it. This is

absolute cinema quality, like
the storyline, everything and

you're going, this is where
we're headed.

And then the actors, with the
with the things they put on,

they've got to do the motion
captures and easy. What an

industry. Yes, some kid is
literally just becoming just a

schlep in his room, you know,
not getting any exercise.

No, the joke is, right? They're
making three times we make daily

in these competitions. Oh, yeah,
rooms. I mean, you know,

games tournaments. Oh, and
eSports, they do it on Twitch.

They're making that

right, you know, six figures a
month, and where they can get

you and we're over here, yeah,
King Kong,

going, Wait a second. I'm like,
Dude, I'm destroying my body.

Hey, Rob, the human body.
Amazing. 25 days ago, I thought

my career was over. I was
washing the dishes, coffee mug

handle lacerated. My money
making finger where the fulcrum

or the stick sits right there,
blood all over the wall,

spraying. I get up, Kara's out
of town, Jim's busy. I Uber to

the Spring Hill. Er, I get
there, they put five stitches in

there. I'm going, oh my god,
what am I? Am I gonna lose

nerves? Am I? Am I gonna have
feeling? Am I gonna my drumming

ever gonna be the same? Perfect
recovery. God, look at that.

Right there, right

there. And that is your, like,
money hand to your snare hand.

So everyone was like, what'd you
do with your April? I pray to

God. I just watched this thing
heal. Wow, didn't pick up a

stick, or that could have been

crazy. Could have been bad,
could have been bad,

but it wasn't because of the big
G in the sky. Rob ricotta,

thanks for being here. Man, oh
my gosh. Man, wonderful to spend

this time. Good to meet you. I'm
just so glad maybe you guys can

do the thing. You can have
synergy. You can join voice over

groups together. You can have
voice battles, table readings,

yeah,

yeah, that's exactly. So I've
never done any of that kind of

stuff. I really need to get more
into it. I just never had an

opportunity. It's really

fun where you're about to do it.
And so people can contact you on

the socials, and they can see
you on tour with John Morgan,

and they could see you play
your. New number one song,

friends like that. Awesome.
Congratulations on playing on

the new record, Carolina blue.
Appreciate it. Rob, love you

buddy. Thanks for the gifts. Of
course. Love you man. Let's get

social. Maybe we'll go smoke a
cigar right now. Done. Nice,

Jim. Thank you for all your time
and talent, of course, as

always. And to all the folks out
there, thank you so much for

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